Passenger Trains > NV 20 mile backup on I-15

Lots of potential rail travelers btw LV and LA on one evening...

https://apnews.com/566095a676f04628abedfab49db42e1d

Posted from Android

Nothing new here. Been like this for decades now.

Way back before the interstate was built I remember when my family would drive in our 49 Chevy down to California from Vegas to visit relatives.  It was two lane highway then.  We seemed to always get behind a PIE semi truck on Mountain Pass.  My dad would terrify my mother by keep poking out to pass.  We would celebrate being alive by stopping in Baker for gasoline and a bathroom break.,

JB - Omaha

Copy19 Wrote:
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> Way back before the interstate was built I
> remember when my family would drive in our 49
> Chevy down to California from Vegas to visit
> relatives.  It was two lane highway then.  We
> seemed to always get behind a PIE semi truck on
> Mountain Pass.  My dad would terrify my mother by
> keep poking out to pass.  We would celebrate
> being alive by stopping in Baker for gasoline and
> a bathroom break.,
>
> JB - Omaha

And to check out the giant thermometer!

From what my dad said about HWY 58 that stretch from NEvada and Route 66 probably was always full of Semis, I can imagine how dangerous it was to pass on thos roads, especially at night!

 A lot of the same people do the same trek year after year. 

Yet another reason for passenger rail service between Los Angeles and sin city.

Posted from iPhone

even when #35/36 ran, it did NOT put a dent in the end of the holiday congestion from vegas on I-15.  still, it would be nice to have #35/36 again..............

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/19 07:42 by goneon66.

A 21-mile backup and UP #4014 wasn't even in the area!  The last time that I drove this route, on the California side the CHP had an airplane in the air measuring car speeds, with 15 to 20 pursuit cars working with him.  The pursuit cars were pulling over up to 4 cars at a time!  California put a small fortune into their coffers that day! 

goneon66 Wrote:
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> even when #35/36 ran, it did NOT put a dent in the
> end of the holiday congestion from vegas on
> I-15. 

A train will not fix congestion anywhere. Some trains is an essential component (but won't end congestion by themselves).

TAW

TAW Wrote:
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> A train will not fix congestion anywhere. Some trains is an essential component (but won't end congestion by themselves).

Philosophy of 90% of Trainorders subscribers  ----->  "But they might not operate at a profit or pay off their construction bonds, so let's make sure they never become a reality."
 

I-95 in Virginia and NC can see similar backups on the Sunday after Thanksgiving. 

TAW Wrote:
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> goneon66 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > even when #35/36 ran, it did NOT put a dent in
> the
> > end of the holiday congestion from vegas on
> > I-15. 
>
> A train will not fix congestion anywhere. Some
> trains is an essential component (but won't end
> congestion by themselves).
>
> TAW

Easier and just as effective to have Southwest/Delta/United/American add a couple of more flights to the LA area.....

lynnpowell Wrote:
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> A 21-mile backup and UP #4014 wasn't even in the
> area!  The last time that I drove this route, on
> the California side the CHP had an airplane in the
> air measuring car speeds, with 15 to 20 pursuit
> cars working with him.  The pursuit cars were
> pulling over up to 4 cars at a time!  California
> put a small fortune into their coffers that day! 

They need to do that all the time, I use to to get to Palmdale and I hate driving that freeway because most of the drivers think it's the Daytona 500!

TAW Wrote:
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> goneon66 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > even when #35/36 ran, it did NOT put a dent in
> the
> > end of the holiday congestion from vegas on
> > I-15. 
>
> A train will not fix congestion anywhere. Some
> trains is an essential component (but won't end
> congestion by themselves).
>
> TAW



Outside of NYC and maybe bits of Chicago, pax rail transport (LD or transit) does not reduce congestion. Not essential.

besides, all we care about is the diners anyway   



Duna Wrote:
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> TAW Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > goneon66 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > even when #35/36 ran, it did NOT put a dent
> in
> > the
> > > end of the holiday congestion from vegas on
> > > I-15. 
> >
> > A train will not fix congestion anywhere. Some
> > trains is an essential component (but won't end
> > congestion by themselves).
> >
> > TAW
>
>
>
> Outside of NYC and maybe bits of Chicago, pax rail
> transport (LD or transit) does not reduce
> congestion. Not essential.

ProAmtrak Wrote:
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> lynnpowell Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A 21-mile backup and UP #4014 wasn't even in
> the
> > area!  The last time that I drove this route,
> on
> > the California side the CHP had an airplane in
> the
> > air measuring car speeds, with 15 to 20 pursuit
> > cars working with him.  The pursuit cars were
> > pulling over up to 4 cars at a time! 
> California
> > put a small fortune into their coffers that
> day! 
>
> They need to do that all the time, I use to to get
> to Palmdale and I hate driving that freeway
> because most of the drivers think it's the Daytona
> 500!

So what's the speed limit on the CA side? Does it decrease when you drive from NV to CA?

Copy19 Wrote:
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> We would celebrate
> being alive by stopping in Baker for gasoline and
> a bathroom break.,

...and have the truck re-pass you again. 

The movie with Dennis Weaver.
Probably got the idea for it driving those routes.
Also old US 66 between Kingman and Flagstaff.
Make America Great Again, Yeah....those were NOT the days.

Cumbresfan Wrote:
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> ProAmtrak Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lynnpowell Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > A 21-mile backup and UP #4014 wasn't even in
> > the
> > > area!  The last time that I drove this
> route,
> > on
> > > the California side the CHP had an airplane
> in
> > the
> > > air measuring car speeds, with 15 to 20
> pursuit
> > > cars working with him.  The pursuit cars
> were
> > > pulling over up to 4 cars at a time! 
> > California
> > > put a small fortune into their coffers that
> > day! 
> >
> > They need to do that all the time, I use to to
> get
> > to Palmdale and I hate driving that freeway
> > because most of the drivers think it's the
> Daytona
> > 500!
>
> So what's the speed limit on the CA side? Does it
> decrease when you drive from NV to CA?

70 MPH is the posted limit in CA. Actual speeds may vary, i.e. is there a CHP near by?