Passenger Trains > NJ: status of multi-level EMU development?

How's the project to develop multi-level, electric multi-unit trains coming along at NJ Transit?  For a while, they seemed convinced they could do away with the locomotive, and add another car to the train.  That has a benefit in the relatively short platforms to which NJ Transit is often assigned at NY Penn.

(That ignores the problem of weight in the current un-powered ML coaches, of course.)

Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> How's the project to develop multi-level, electric
> multi-unit trains coming along at NJ Transit? 
> For a while, they seemed convinced they could do
> away with the locomotive, and add another car to
> the train.  That has a benefit in the relatively
> short platforms to which NJ Transit is often
> assigned at NY Penn.
>
> (That ignores the problem of weight in the current
> un-powered ML coaches, of course.)

I believe an order for MLPs and additional MLVs has either already been placed or is imminent. They are supposed to be available in a couple of years.

What is the problem with weight of the MLVs, other than in the minds of railfans?

The RVL has 8 MLV and 2 Comet train sets. The Comets make 5 minutes better time. That can easily be benchmarked against upto 5 years ago when all 10 sets were MLV's.

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The MLVs are nearly 50% heavier than a Comet V.

Does the MLV carry more psgrs than a Comet V?

(MLV = Multi-Level Vehicle?  And as for terminology ... [curmudgeon alert!} a Vehicle is an automobile. A Car is a railroad car. Ever hear anyone refer to a "boxvehicle"?)

JGFuller Wrote:
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> Does the MLV carry more psgrs than a Comet V?
>
> (MLV = Multi-Level Vehicle?  And as for
> terminology ... [curmudgeon alert!} a Vehicle is
> an automobile. A Car is a railroad car. Ever hear
> anyone refer to a "boxvehicle"?)



Vehicle = means of conveyance.

A rail passenger car is a type of vehicle. LRV = Light Rail Vehicle, etc...

A black sedan driven by a stranger, tractor, spacecraft, elevator... all vehicles.