Passenger Trains > Capitol Limited 30(8) apparently will not make it to Washington

Eff. 7/6-7/30 Mon-Thurs. :

Account CSX trackwork between Connellsville,PA and Cumberland,MD. If Train 30 is over 1hr late, it
will terminate at Pittsburgh and turn to a stub Train 29. Bus transportation provided Pittsburgh-Washington.


 * Train 30 of 07/08/2020.

* Capitol Limited
* +---------------- Station Code
* | +----------- Schedule Arrival Day
* | | +-------- Schedule Arrival Time
* | | | +----- Schedule Departure Day
* | | | | +-- Schedule Departure Time
* | | | | | +------------- Actual Arrival Time
* | | | | | | +------- Actual Departure Time
* | | | | | | | +- Comments
* V V V V V V V V
* CHI * * 1 640P * 709P Departed: 29 minutes late.
* SOB * * 1 909P * 1130P Departed: 2 hours, 21 minutes late.
* EKH * * 1 929P * 1152P Departed: 2 hours, 23 minutes late.
* WTI * * 1 1023P * 1253A Departed: 2 hours, 30 minutes late.
* TOL 1 1139P 1 1149P 218A 238A Arrived: 2 hours, 39 minutes late. | Departed: 2 hours, 49 minutes late.
* SKY * * 2 1240A * 342A Departed: 3 hours, 2 minutes late.
ELY * * 2 115A
CLE 2 145A 2 154A

Train 30(8) with AMTK 99, 105, 195

After its 29 minute initial terminal delay from Chicago, the power shut down multiple times between CP490 and CP485, reportedly some sort of sensor on the lead unit is causing units to shut down. The crew cut the sensor out but then is limited to 50 mph and then must recheck the protected system every ten miles.  No way it's making Pittsburgh less than 61 minutes late.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/20 01:12 by GenePoon.

I wonder if the passengers were told of that possibility before they undertook the ill fated journey? A bus is NOT the same as a sleeper. Particularly for those who prefer to remain somewhat isolated during this time.  I wonder if they will keep every other seat on the buses open? I hope those in sleepers have enough good sense to demand a refund for the portion of the trip on the bus.

They might like most of the buses running 2 -3 hours faster than the train.

Arrived PGH 835AM and terminated.

29(9) will be a bus, WAS-PGH.

Refunds for sleeping car passengers would be authorized but would normally be calculated by subtracting the accommodations charge CHI-PGH...but the refund thus calculated is proportionately less than the untraveled mileage.

A notice about the possibility of disruption is at:

https://www.amtrak.com/alert/additional-track-work-may-affect-capitol-limited-schedule.html

That means Thursday's 29 will stay in Ivy City ?
They killed the wrong train in 2005. 

 

Many of the travelers probably consider the bus(es) as considerably less social distanced than their sleeper accomodations.

Since they had THREE engines (due to sloopy maintenance) and the lead unit is crap, then set off that lead unit.  Why not?  

And the increasingly-fictitious "State of Good Repair" continues.....

When 30 is terminated in PGH, what happens to it? When passengers on the 29 bus get to PGH, what happens to them?
Thank you.

30's consist stays in PGH and is serviced there, becoming a stub Train 29 which passengers off the buses will board.

joemvcnj Wrote:
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> That means Thursday's 29 will stay in Ivy City ?
> They killed the wrong train in 2005. 
>
>  

In a comment you posted a week ago in another thread you said "Perhaps it is time to turn off the spigot to the NEC account and let it rot like the Penn Central."  So if the Northeast Corridor were allowed to "rot," how would the the Three Rivers serve Philadelphia, Trenton, Newark and New York City, if it was still running?

First off, it is a negotiating tactic and to show the NEC should take a greater share of the brunt of this.

Secondly many trains a day ran between New York and Pittsburgh in the 1960's when the tracks were in far worse shape than they are today. So I don't know the reason for your hysterics.

If we are going to tell people to wait 2 or 3 days for the next train in 23 states, I don't see the terrible hardship if it takes an extra half hour or hour to get from New York to Washington, especially as the NEC becomes increasingly politically unsupportable and is so "profitable".



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/20 18:05 by joemvcnj.

Thanks. I just wondered why, since 29 gets to cumberland at 7:17 after supposedly trackwaork has finished for the day, why it just can't keep going. A late 30 into PGH has used bus to Was in past.

joemvcnj Wrote:
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> First off, it is a negotiating tactic and to show
> the NEC should take a greater share of the brunt
> of this.
>
> Secondly many trains a day ran between New York
> and Pittsburgh in the 1960's when the tracks were
> in far worse shape than they are today. So I don't
> know the reason for your hysterics.

Maybe the tracks were in worse shape, but other infrastructure such as bridges and tunnels were in better shape in the 1960s.

> If we are going to tell people to wait 2 or 3 days
> for the next train in 23 states, I don't see the
> terrible hardship if it takes an extra half hour
> or hour to get from New York to Washington,
> especially as the NEC becomes increasingly
> politically unsupportable and is so "profitable".

You said let the Northeast Corridor "rot" - which I understood to mean fall apart to the point where it is unusable.  That is the reality being faced if funding is not found to maintain the Hudson River crossing.  If you meant to say invest less in the Northeast Corridor so that speeds would have to be reduced, you could have used words to the effect, so readers would understand that you only meant a delay of 1/2 hour.


 

MEKoch Wrote:
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> Since they had THREE engines (due to sloopy
> maintenance) and the lead unit is crap, then set
> off that lead unit.  Why not?  
==============================

Perhaps the trailing units were restricted from bad leading. Or the other units were facing the wrong way (not likely). Or Amtrak realized that they'd have to pay NS to fix it if it were set out, and that they could do it cheaper in PGH during its long layover.

That Amtrak train probably got overtaken by every eastbound NS was running that night except for coal and the lowliest locals.

30 (8) Wednesday evening at Whiting, IN.

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