Passenger Trains > The Lake Shore Limted - Train 48 at 100 mph

November 22, 2020
JFK Assasinated 57 years ago today.

Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited, Train 48 is barrelling down the speedway from Hoffman's to Schenectady, NY with 11 cars and engines 86 and 45 caught at Stone Arabia Crossing this afternoon. 



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/22/20 14:27 by train1275.

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Always love riding and viewing in this section of the Lake Shore's route -- speed and ride is wonderful.  Shows what is possible for higher-speed rail without the encumbrance of freight.

Unlike me on today’s Train 20 staggering around everywhere!!

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Nice picture!  Intersting how that segment has 2-quad gates with no advanced technology, but other higher speed segments in the USA (IL and MI) require either complex technology or 4-quads?     

The crossings have been that way since about 1979 when the line was rebuilt for the turbo trains good for 110 mph. Long before "high speed" was started in other states.

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RMD23 Wrote:
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> Nice picture!  Intersting how that segment has
> 2-quad gates with no advanced technology, but
> other higher speed segments in the USA (IL and MI)
> require either complex technology or 4-quads?   
>  

But they also have the signs (visible by the nearer gate) saying "High Speed Trains" trusting people to make smart choices.  At one time that was considered sufficient warning info. 

It amazes me how New York and more recently Connecticut quietly rebuilt lines for 110 mph.  Meanwhile, Illinois hyped up its $2 billion Chicago - St Louis HSR, ran a short demo stretch at 110 mph for a couple of months, then called it quits and left the line stuck at 79 mph for years.



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Just wait until they hit and kill someone and then watch the bleeding hearts come out saying there should have been 4 quad gates at all the crossings these "high speed trains" go through. No matter what you put for for warning and protection, some fool will find himself on the front of a locomotive.

SP4360 Wrote:
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> Just wait until they hit and kill someone and then
> watch the bleeding hearts come out saying there
> should have been 4 quad gates at all the crossings
> these "high speed trains" go through. No matter
> what you put for for warning and protection, some
> fool will find himself on the front of a
> locomotive.

Trains have been running at high speeds through the location shown in the photo for over 40 years.  Maybe the people passing through this crossing are not fools.  As a former resident of the Albany - Schnectady urban area (mid- to late 1980s), I do not recall any problems with that crossing.

Didn't know that this section of RR was good for 110 mph - thought only that those types of speeds could be obtained in the NEC (and in those shorter areas owned by AMTK in Michigan and Illinois).
Are there any other areas of track good for 110 mph running?

Does anyone have an RR timetable for this segment?  (pls PM if you do)

Thanks,
--j

VIA Rail Canada corridor trains will flirt with 100 mph, but as for 110, you have the Empire Corridor between Hudson and Albany, and also between Albany and Schenectady (and a short stretch of 100 mph from Schenectady to Hoffmans).  There's the recently upgraded Michigan (and northern Indiana?) trackage.  And then Connecticut recently upgraded the New Haven - Hartford line for 110 mph.  I think that's about it currently.  Brightline plans to do 110 on the Florida East Coast Railway.  

Coo shot, sad 49 and 48 only flies that fast in New York Sate while 3 and 4 can do 90 across California, Arizona, New Mexico and Missouri!

jofegan Wrote:
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> Are there any other areas of track good for 110
> mph running?

There's a considerable deal of 110MPH territory enjoyed by Amtrak's electrified Keystone Service on the 105-mile-long ex-PRR Main Line from Philadelphia PA to Harrisburg PA. None of the 110 track is east of Paoli. ACS-64 City Sprinter electric locomotives are the motive power, and push-pull Amfleet consists (with de-motored Metroliner EMUs serving as the cab cars) are the rolling stock.

25 and 30 years ago, that route still had various long stretches as slow as 70MPH and even 60.

hsr_fan Wrote:
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> It amazes me how New York and more recently
> Connecticut quietly rebuilt lines for 110 mph. 
> Meanwhile, Illinois hyped up its $2 billion
> Chicago - St Louis HSR, ran a short demo stretch
> at 110 mph for a couple of months, then called it
> quits and left the line stuck at 79 mph for years.


That was just corporate welfare for UP.

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