Passenger Trains > Crescent disruption (can't win for losing...,)

May as well start a new thread...

Also posted below in the Crescent 19(22) thread:

Crescent 19(23) and 20(23) bustitution between Atlanta and Charlotte account freight train derailment near Pickens, SC. Reported as 13 cars on the ground.

NS 265 the California train hit the gravel about 1:30 this afternoon. Straight single track probably 50 mph running through there. All double stack 53' containers. No injuries to crew or stockholders.

Lack of MOW again?

steamloco Wrote:
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> No injuries to crew or stockholders.

I had to chuckle. Good one. I am sincere in saying that I'm glad that there were no injuries to crew. Never want them to be injured in any way.

I'm less sure about the stockholders. Maybe they need a tad bit of pain to wake up and take a clear-eyed look at their company.

MC

ironmtn Wrote:

> I'm less sure about the stockholders. Maybe they
> need a tad bit of pain to wake up and take a
> clear-eyed look at their company.
>
> MC
The small shareholders do care; however, you have to remember that it is the giant shareholders, big hedge funds and the like who own the majority of the company who do not care as long as they make money today and the heck with tomorrow.  They are willing to ruin a corporation for greed and if the company is run into the ground, just before this happens, they take their profits and move on.
John in White Marsh, Maryland

This loss is nothing to NS. Most containers looked to be EMP's which I think they own anyway. I ran a shop for Swift Transportation 30 some years ago and we could loose sometimes 5 tractor trailers a day just on the East coast due to wrecks, theifs and floods and management never battled an eye. I never understood how cheap inexperienced labor was worth that much but there must be more profits in moving freight than we all realize.

WHNS photo

No discussion yet on the Eastern board!!

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Nasty pileup. Sorry for the delay to the Crescent - it's tough for that train to catch a break. Again, glad that no one or the crew or any of the public was injured.

I continue to be impressed with the attachment stability of doublestacked containers in wreck situations like this. I've seen other images of doublestack trains in derailment situations, and those inter-box connector (IBC) devices hold the containers together well, even when completely toppled over. Which of course they need to do in regular service as well. A well-engineered component, and a key to the success of doublestack.

MC

I wonder how many buses were needed for Atlanta-Charlotte. 

Theoretically there is a detour route over CSX Atlanta-Greenwood-Spartanburg. But most of the route is 35-45 mph and further time would be lost to the gyrations required in Atlanta and Spartanburg.

ironmtn Wrote:
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> Nasty pileup. Sorry for the delay to the Crescent
> - it's tough for that train to catch a break.
> Again, glad that no one or the crew or any of the
> public was injured.
>
> I continue to be impressed with the attachment
> stability of doublestacked containers in wreck
> situations like this. I've seen other images of
> doublestack trains in derailment situations, and
> those inter-box connector (IBC) devices hold the
> containers together well, even when completely
> toppled over. Which of course they need to do in
> regular service as well. A well-engineered
> component, and a key to the success of
> doublestack.
>
> MC

It makes sense, those IBCs are basically just big chunks of metal. I'm more impressed that the containers didn't tear open. Their frames are pretty strong, but I wouldn't expect them to be stronger than the IBCs

They can be made into sturdy homes:

https://www.google.com/search?q=freight+containers+homes&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS876US876&sxsrf=ALeKk02Rb6bjilQybzlUtuJzayBq3OQhrQ:1624650371502&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=_tAx1jzOQ4qxQM%252CWMila8KfWZFnrM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQMTM8vFWjsGYDKitvrYoAR1nx_dw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiJz5uixrPxAhWIFFkFHQGaA_oQ9QF6BAgZEAE&biw=1024&bih=678#imgrc=_tAx1jzOQ4qxQM

joemvcnj Wrote:
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> They can be made into sturdy homes:
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=freight+containers
> +homes&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS876US876&sxsrf=ALeKk02Rb6bj
> ilQybzlUtuJzayBq3OQhrQ:1624650371502&tbm=isch&sour
> ce=iu&ictx=1&fir=_tAx1jzOQ4qxQM%252CWMila8KfWZFnrM
> %252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQMTM8vFWjsGYDKitvrYoAR1nx_d
> w&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiJz5uixrPxAhWIFFkFHQGaA_oQ9QF6BA
> gZEAE&biw=1024&bih=678#imgrc=_tAx1jzOQ4qxQM

Yes.

There's a community of repurposed containers in downtown Oslo, Norway. Three boxes high, with windows, porches, doors, cut in, and exterior enclosed stairways.

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