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Date: 01/15/22 08:20
Red Bird Grounded over the weekend
Author: PC1974

After making only on one trip last week, things did improve with the Cardinal (Red Bird) running 2 trips this week. Train ran late eastbound both trips thanks to equipment issues, but ran OT westbound. But the week has ended early, to avoid opportunity for the Red Bird to get Black Eye with the weather forecast. All weather mode transportation is a bust, which tells me this is novelty transportation. You have to wait 3 days for the next chance to ride this train, NOT!



Date: 01/15/22 21:12
Re: Red Bird Grounded over the weekend
Author: alan2955

PC1974 Wrote:
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> After making only on one trip last week, things
> did improve with the Cardinal (Red Bird) running 2
> trips this week. Train ran late eastbound both
> trips thanks to equipment issues, but ran OT
> westbound. But the week has ended early, to avoid
> opportunity for the Red Bird to get Black Eye with
> the weather forecast. All weather mode
> transportation is a bust, which tells me this is
> novelty transportation. You have to wait 3 days
> for the next chance to ride this train, NOT!

If anybody’s around that remembers, did Chesapeake and Ohio cancel service between Cincinnati and Washington DC every time it snowed? The railroad used to advertise that they were the all weather mode of travel, apparently that’s not true with the incompetent Amtrak. On the other hand with Amtrak’s equipment breakdowns and ineptitude, you probably don’t want to strand people in the middle of a snowstorm in West Virginia.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/15/22 21:13 by alan2955.



Date: 01/16/22 05:11
Re: Red Bird Grounded over the weekend
Author: choodude

alan2955 Wrote:
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> If anybody’s around that remembers, did Chesapeake and Ohio cancel service between Cincinnati and Washington DC every time it snowed?


> The railroad used to advertise that they were the all weather mode of travel, apparently that’s not true with the incompetent Amtrak. On the other hand with Amtrak’s equipment breakdowns and ineptitude, you probably don’ want to strand people in the middle of a snowstorm in West Virginia.





Gee, if only the Government had invested the billions of dollars flushed down the highway system and air travel infrastructure on railroads, then maybe the railroads would be able to provide that level of service.

Brian



Date: 01/16/22 10:45
Re: Red Bird Grounded over the weekend
Author: Typhoon

choodude Wrote:
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> alan2955 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If anybody’s around that remembers, did
> Chesapeake and Ohio cancel service between
> Cincinnati and Washington DC every time it
> snowed?
>
>
> > The railroad used to advertise that they were
> the all weather mode of travel, apparently
> that’s not true with the incompetent Amtrak. On
> the other hand with Amtrak’s equipment
> breakdowns and ineptitude, you probably don’
> want to strand people in the middle of a snowstorm
> in West Virginia.
>
>
>
>
>
> Gee, if only the Government had invested the
> billions of dollars flushed down the highway
> system and air travel infrastructure on railroads,
> then maybe the railroads would be able to provide
> that level of service.
>
> Brian

Didn't the government just "flush" billions into Amtrak?   Are you saying that after those investments are paid out, Amtrak will not cancel trains for weather?



Date: 01/16/22 12:30
Re: Red Bird Grounded over the weekend
Author: cutboy1958

As  it stands now  in Cincinnati 3:30 pm  no  snow. Both  50 and  51  would  have  been  fine!!



Date: 01/16/22 12:58
Re: Red Bird Grounded over the weekend
Author: Jimbo

cutboy1958 Wrote:
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> As  it stands now  in Cincinnati 3:30 pm  no
>  snow. Both  50 and  51  would  have  been
>  fine!!

There is plenty of snow and freezing rain in western Virginia, however, which is where 50 and 51 would be now.



Date: 01/17/22 04:41
Re: Red Bird Grounded over the weekend
Author: choodude

Typhoon Wrote:
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> Didn't the government just "flush" billions into Amtrak?   Are you saying that after those investments are paid out, Amtrak will not cancel trains for weather?


Fascinating. Not only has Amtrak not received the money yet - so how could that possibly have any effect yet - but how much of the pot is supposed to go to the privately owned freight railroads to increase capacity and maintenance?

Zip! After all, isn't spending money to clear trees from the right of way stealing from the shareholders?

Brian



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/17/22 07:17 by choodude.



Date: 01/17/22 08:33
Re: Red Bird Grounded over the weekend
Author: Typhoon

choodude Wrote:
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> Typhoon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Didn't the government just "flush" billions into
> Amtrak?   Are you saying that after those
> investments are paid out, Amtrak will not cancel
> trains for weather?
>
>
> Fascinating. Not only has Amtrak not received the
> money yet - so how could that possibly have any
> effect yet -

Who says it did?  Reread my post. "After these investments are paid out". Pretty obvious I was talking in the future.  


>but how much of the pot is supposed
> to go to the privately owned freight railroads to
> increase capacity and maintenance?
>
> Zip! After all, isn't spending money to clear
> trees from the right of way stealing from the
> shareholders?
>
So it is tax money wasted?  It won't help Amtrak become more reliable?   Fantastic.  



Date: 01/17/22 09:32
Re: Red Bird Grounded over the weekend
Author: choodude

Typhoon Wrote:
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> So it is tax money wasted?  It won't help Amtrak become more reliable?   Fantastic.  



Following your logic Amtrak should definitely dump long distance passenger trains.

The money Amtrak has proposed to spend on new long distance equipment, maintenance facilities and employees will not fix the privately owned frieight railroads "passenger train interference" problems.

Better spend the money on corridors that Amtrak owns or can negotiate contract service agreements.

Brian



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