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Date: 01/24/23 16:16
Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: sethamtrak

Train 383 - Chicago-Quincy (Illinois Zephyr). Just a charger, a single Amfleet II coach, and a viewliner baggage this evening. This down from one Amfleet II and one Venture Coach. 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/24/23 20:12 by sethamtrak.




Date: 01/24/23 16:26
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: irhoghead

Has Amtrak really driven away all of the business? One coach? When I went to school out that way, I don't ever remember that train being less than three cars, two coaches and a cafe, no matter the time of year. More often than not, it ran with well more than that. The Sunday after Thanksgiving out of Chicago used to be in the neighborhood of sixteen or so Amfleets behind two F40s, and trust me, it was full. Pretty sad what it has come to.



Date: 01/24/23 16:48
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: ts1457

NOT looking good!



Date: 01/24/23 17:37
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: cabsignaldrop

On the plus side, I guess BNSF doesn't have the same issues shunning crossing circuits.

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Date: 01/24/23 17:48
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: beebopper

More then likely an emergency fill in consist! Aren't some Midwest consists handled by attendants with rolling snack cars (the snacks could easilybe stored in the baggage car) along with a microwave and coffee maker! A water cooler also for fresh water! Obviouslythat didnt happen though)! Either way with a potential for no more than 60 or so riders an extended station stop to allow for food purchases would work!

Posted from Android



Date: 01/24/23 18:04
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: sethamtrak

beebopper Wrote:
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> More then likely an emergency fill in consist!
> Aren't some Midwest consists handled by attendants
> with rolling snack cars (the snacks could easilybe
> stored in the baggage car) along with a microwave
> and coffee maker! A water cooler also for fresh
> water! Obviouslythat didnt happen though)! Either
> way with a potential for no more than 60 or so
> riders an extended station stop to allow for food
> purchases would work!
>
> Posted from Android

This train last week was the Amfleet II coach and one Venture Coach and that was sad and pathetic enough. Seems like the Venture coach was dropped for an axle count baggage car. ALL of Chicago doesn't have just one coach? I find that hard to believe. 

Isn't this the same company that wants to expand regional services? 



Date: 01/24/23 18:04
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: atsf121

cabsignaldrop Wrote:
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> On the plus side, I guess BNSF doesn't have the
> same issues shunning crossing circuits.
>
> Posted from Android

I was wondering the same thing about the short train. I thought Amtrak California had to run an extra car or two on the BNSF for the San Joaquin’s.

Nathan

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Date: 01/24/23 19:55
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: POW

What is 383? Name? From Chicago to where?



Date: 01/24/23 20:01
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: CP8888

POW Wrote:
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> What is 383? Name? From Chicago to where?

Illinois Zephyr Chicago to Quincy IL.

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Date: 01/24/23 20:01
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: kevink

POW Wrote:
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> What is 383? Name? From Chicago to where?

Illinois Zephyr to Quincy IL.

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Date: 01/24/23 20:02
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: TransitTyrant

beebopper Wrote:
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> More then likely an emergency fill in consist!
> Aren't some Midwest consists handled by attendants
> with rolling snack cars (the snacks could easilybe
> stored in the baggage car) along with a microwave
> and coffee maker! A water cooler also for fresh
> water! Obviouslythat didnt happen though)! Either
> way with a potential for no more than 60 or so
> riders an extended station stop to allow for food
> purchases would work!
>
> Posted from Android

No, Its a crew shortage issue. 1 car requires only 1 conductor.



Date: 01/24/23 20:06
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: kevink

beebopper Wrote:
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> Either
> way with a potential for no more than 60 or so
> riders an extended station stop to allow for food
> purchases would work!
>

With the possible exception of the La Grange Road stop, I can’t think of another stop between Chicago and Quincy where there would be any place close to the station to make a quick food purchase.

Posted from iPhone



Date: 01/25/23 06:45
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: restricted_speed

Can Amtrak just let passengers ride in the locomotive?

That ought to drive down costs I would think?



Date: 01/25/23 07:06
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: joemvcnj

Bring a stadium cushion, and squat down in the baggage car. 



Date: 01/25/23 07:20
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: restricted_speed

joemvcnj Wrote:
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> Bring a stadium cushion, and squat down in the
> baggage car. 

Good thinking.  I notice the lights are on in the bag, so this should work well I would think. 



Date: 01/25/23 07:40
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: GenePoon

The lights aleays seem to be on in the No-View-Liner baggage cars. But this is AMTRAK. The lights are on but nobody's home...



Date: 01/25/23 08:58
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: OnTime

#381, operating on the same route as #383 had a fairly normal 2 car consist today. One amlfeet coach and one amfleet cafe car.



Date: 01/25/23 11:47
Re: Amtrak 383 - Consist Reduction
Author: IC_2024

GenePoon Wrote:
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> The lights aleays seem to be on in the
> No-View-Liner baggage cars. But this is AMTRAK.
> The lights are on but nobody's home...

Bahahhaha— thanks, Gene, for my morning laugh!



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