Passenger Trains > $90 million dollars into SEPTA's proposed 4 mile extention

Any updates on SEPTA's proposed four mile transit extension from Norristown, PA
just outside of Philadelphia, PA to King of Prussia?

To date, close to $90,000,000.00 has been spent on this project to extend the
Norristown "Hight Spped" Line. 

Any new stations?
Tracks?
New equipment?
Aquisition of land?

Oh, wait, never mind:
It's been canceled.

SEPTA halts King of Prussia rail project due to rising costs
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2023/03/17/septa-halts-king-of-prussia-rail-project.html

Looks like they underestimated the cost of the project - up from 2 billion dollars
to 3 billion dollars - and rising.

/Mitch



 



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/17/23 15:53 by Mgoldman.

From SEPTA:
https://www5.septa.org/media/news/septa-pauses-king-of-prussia-rail-project/

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Why should four miles of above-ground railroad cost 2-3 billion dollars?   That is American insanity.  

Because of graft, kickbacks, study after study, impact statements , etc.

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Because of graft, kickbacks, study after study, impact statements , etc.

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90M  in corruption and petty squabbling.   This is why Im glad i dont live in this area anymore.  Honesty is looked at as "what, are u crazy?"
Its just terrible on both sides of the aisle.

I'm old enough to remember when this was thought to be a $50 million project and the Pennsylvania DOT decided to kick start work on it by buying the requried extra Norristown line equipment from ABB in the late 1980's..

I think I remember them proposing something to there in 1976.

It will never happen.

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And SEPTA always wants everything "gold plated," so to speak. Usually too much "fluff" over substance.

Mgoldman Wrote:
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> SEPTA halts King of Prussia rail project due to
> rising costs
> https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2023
> /03/17/septa-halts-king-of-prussia-rail-project.ht
> ml
>
> Looks like they underestimated the cost of the
> project - up from 2 billion dollars
> to 3 billion dollars - and rising.
>
> /Mitch
>

I am not able to access this article due to a paywall.
 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/18/23 15:48 by RuleG.

RuleG Wrote:
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> I am not able to access this article due to a
> paywall.
>  

It basically states that SEPTA spent close to $90 million dollars for the
artist's concept image below, along with an analysis by professionals
indicating that the project had merit and could be done for a billion less
than it would actually cost.  Y'konw... standard fair.  Check the article
linked below my link.  My link was not paywall when I accessed it.

Here's another link:  
https://billypenn.com/2023/03/17/septa-pulls-the-plug-on-kop-rail-pausing-the-3b-project-over-fta-concerns/

Apparently officlals blame the local governments for being so stingy and
unlikely to cover the required 40% share of a 3 billion dollar 4 mile long all
new extention. 

/Mitch

Edit - looks like I was mistaken - there are actaully quite a few artist's
concept shots!  The one seen here is the most popular.

 



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/18/23 16:22 by Mgoldman.

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Mgoldman Wrote:
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> RuleG Wrote:
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> > I am not able to access this article due to a
> > paywall.
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> Here's another link:  
> https://billypenn.com/2023/03/17/septa-pulls-the-p
> lug-on-kop-rail-pausing-the-3b-project-over-fta-co
> ncerns/
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>  
I am able to access the link.  Thank you for posting it.