Passenger Trains > How long will this be a routine scene?

It's dawned on me lately that matched sets of Amfleet cars are now becoming pretty rare outside the northeast. 

You'd never guess that watching trains go by on the Empire Corridor. Other than the Lake Shore Limited, nearly every train is a pug-nosed Genesis engine and 5-6 Amfleet cars.  

It makes for a nice scene though, when the light is just right. Here we are on the Mohawk River, a few miles,east of Amsterdam. 

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Well done.  Beautiful shot.

Great shot!

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Nice photo! A far cry from NYC's Empire Service using one E unit and two or three coaches.

Nicely done image!

I like the Amfleet cars, of course they are what l have ridden on the most.

Jim

When Amtrak's new passenger fleet of 83 Siemens Airo train sets (including propulsion) start arriving in 2026 and Amtrak begins to retire its 500+ Amfleet cars in 2027-2030, where will all those coaches, cafe cars, etc and P42 diesels end up? Some cars have already gone to Mexico. Amfleet wouldn't seem to be suitable for shortline/museum train excursions.

At one time, Amtrak said they planned to scrap them..  That may have changed, but my guess is that the majority will be scrapped.

Airo's won't reach the Empire Corridor until 2029-2030. 

agent1522 Wrote:
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> At one time, Amtrak said they planned to scrap
> them..  That may have changed, but my guess is
> that the majority will be scrapped.

Hmmmm… This sounds familiar. Wasn’t there some kind of issue with Amjoke selling or scrapping coaches before and then not having anything for backup/holidays or extra moves? 🧐

Regards

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I was reminded on my last Lake Shore trip on the riding quality of the Amcoaches.   My very first trip on them was 1980, on the Inter-American in from Joliet to Union Station.

That was the ATSF main, and it was still jointed rail, but fast, and goodness, compared to a Heritage coach, they really rode rough!   Mostly on the side-to-side hunting.

I remember riding the Keystone line on the Pennsylvanian from Harrisburg to Philadelphia BEFORE it was rebuilt, holy smoke, I gave up trying to read, or work on the laptop, really a rough ride on jointed rail.  

And my last trip to Boston, 79 mph running and up to 108 near Schenectady on welded, ride quality not bad at all.   Then you hit that one little remaining piece of jointed rail south of Albany-Rensaleer, to the CSX main connection (should finish that up this year), but WOW, yeah, that's what I remember..... Amcoaches ride like a horizontal thrill ride on jointed rail with the side-to-side action.   Nothing there but passenger traffic, you can't blame freight there.   

I'm waiting to see what comes next, but the Amcoaches have become old friends.  But for those of you that never got to ride a decent Budd 44-seat at speed, still lacking in many ways