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Date: 04/14/25 14:50
Business class on Cascades
Author: 8notch

Hello all,
Can you please tell me the difference between business class on Horizon cars vs businees class on Amfleet cars. Since the Horizon cars are no longer being used on Cascade the route.
Thanks in advance,
Robert in Island City Oregon



Date: 04/14/25 15:54
Re: Business class on Cascades
Author: engineerinvirginia

Probably similar...mainly a bit more legroom? A quiter car.....



Date: 04/14/25 17:19
Re: Business class on Cascades
Author: BobB

From my experience some years ago when the Lakeshore ran with business class rather than a sleeper and when I took the train from Galesburg to Quincy and back (obviously two separate trips:  business class is at the end of the food/lounge car nearest the locomotive, with a curtain between it and the rest of the car.  It has 2-1 seating and the seats are comfortable with adequate legroom.  Like all Amfleet cars the windows are smaller than I'd like but you can still get a decent view.  It's quieter than coach and thus more relaxing (assuming there's no one yakking on a phone the entire time).  Overall I think it's well worth the extra fare.



Date: 04/14/25 18:40
Re: Business class on Cascades
Author: NPRocky

The big difference, as I understand it, is that the Horizon club-dinettes had 14 Business Class seats and the Amfleet club-dinettes have 17.  And right now, every additional seat of any kind helps on the now only three-car Amfleet Cascades.  A lot of people are commenting on how much nicer the Amfleet cars are to ride in.



Date: 04/15/25 11:52
Re: Business class on Cascades
Author: 8notch

Thanks for the information. Are these seats in business class reserved seats or is it first come first serve.
Robert.



Date: 04/15/25 15:50
Re: Business class on Cascades
Author: PHall

8notch Wrote:
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> Thanks for the information. Are these seats in
> business class reserved seats or is it first come
> first serve.
> Robert.

Business Class is all reserved since you have to pay extra.



Date: 04/15/25 19:48
Re: Business class on Cascades
Author: 8notch

Again thanks for the information
Robert


PHall Wrote:
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> 8notch Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks for the information. Are these seats in
> > business class reserved seats or is it first
> come
> > first serve.
> > Robert.
>
> Business Class is all reserved since you have to
> pay extra.



Date: 04/16/25 05:36
Re: Business class on Cascades
Author: DrawingroomA

PHall Wrote:
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> 8notch Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks for the information. Are these seats in
> > business class reserved seats or is it first
> come
> > first serve.
> > Robert.
>
> Business Class is all reserved since you have to
> pay extra.

Is this something new?  I have read and heard from others that Business Class is reserved but specific seats are not assigned.  I have been told you sit wherever there is a vacant seat.



Date: 04/16/25 10:40
Re: Business class on Cascades
Author: PHall

DrawingroomA Wrote:
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> PHall Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 8notch Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Thanks for the information. Are these seats
> in
> > > business class reserved seats or is it first
> > come
> > > first serve.
> > > Robert.
> >
> > Business Class is all reserved since you have
> to
> > pay extra.
>
> Is this something new?  I have read and heard
> from others that Business Class is reserved but
> specific seats are not assigned.  I have been
> told you sit wherever there is a vacant seat.

I didn't say that the seats are reserved, you're just reserving a space. The system knows how many Business Class seats there are on the train and it restricts the number of reservations to that number.



Date: 04/17/25 12:13
Re: Business class on Cascades
Author: DrawingroomA

Whenever I have paid for "reserved" seating on any of the trains I have ridden in the UK and Europe, or on a plane, or at the theatre, I have a choice of a specific seat .  I wonder why Amtrak can't offer the same to its passengers.  Decades ago in the early  years of VIA operations the first class seating (called Club Car seats) were not specifically assigned, but it didn't take them too long to change their policy.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/17/25 12:17 by DrawingroomA.



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