Passenger Trains > Woman Loses Arm In Mishap With Amtrak Train

A woman lost her arm in a mishap involving an Amtrak train in Ventura.

KTLA has the story.

Here’s the link:

https://ktla.com/news/travel/woman-loses-arm-after-collision-with-oncoming-train-in-ventura-county

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Lady, just wait another 20 seconds for the train to pass!
 

Todd Clark
Canyon Country, CA
Trainorders.com

You can see the lawsuit coming from this one. If the bike got hung up on the tracks there's a damn good chance she wasn't at a crossing, but that doesn't matter to the "entitled" world.

webmaster Wrote:
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> Lady, just wait another 20 seconds for the train
> to pass!
>  

We know nothing of what the setting was. It is conceivable a bike tire got wedged in a flange-way in the grade crossing. Question then is why didn't she let go and run, or was her clothing snagged to the bike . 

UP has some of the right of way fenced but that evolved into a legal beach access issue. The specific location of this event may be east of the fenced right of way, though. Someone with free time might research the history involving UP's attempts to fix fencing, the city's response and Coastal Commission views. The proper public railroad crossing is the Seaward Avenue undercrossing but some residents take a shortcut across the tracks rather than under the tracks and that was turning into a legal entitlement. Seaward is a high vehicle traffic, bicycle and pedestrian unfriendly street but that's another story. 

The tracks at the Seward Avenue grade separation are pretty far from the ocean for coastal access to be an issue. They’re on the inland side of the freeway, too.

Obviously, we don’t know all the details, but I would bet money she was somewhere she shouldn’t have been.

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walstib Wrote:
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> The tracks at the Seward Avenue grade separation
> are pretty far from the ocean for coastal access
> to be an issue. They’re on the inland side of
> the freeway, too.
>
> Obviously, we don’t know all the details, but I
> would bet money she was somewhere she shouldn’t
> have been.
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> Posted from iPhone

Not to be completely inhumane, but couldn't some of this be considered trespassng on the "woman's" part? It's a tragedy that this happened, but a very sad accident at best. 

A Metrolink spokesman was quoted in the Ventura County Star calling her a trespasser.

I don’t see any reason why you shouldn’t do the same if that’s the term you prefer.

Personally, I’ll stick with calling her a woman. Until and unless she is convicted of trespassing, she would be an alleged trespasser in my book.

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I entirely agree with you Walstib.

If you don't like the comment, then move on.  Don't read it.  It's not up to you to determine what the rest of us can and can not read.

stuporchief Wrote:
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> Plrease remove this comment:
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> > You can see the lawsuit coming from this one.
> If
> > the bike got hung up on the tracks there's a
> damn
> > good chance she wasn't at a crossing, but that
> > doesn't matter to the "entitled" world.
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> > webmaster Wrote:
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> > > Lady, just wait another 20 seconds for the
> > train
> > > to pass!
> > >  

There's no "official" at grade crossings in the vicinity, either for vehicles or bicycles/peds. Looks like the cyclist/woman/trespasser/victim et. al, was taking a shortcut across the tracks instead of taking the longer way via the roadside bike path beneath the underpass. 

Desmond Praetzel, "4451 Puff"

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Topfuel Wrote:
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> If you don't like the comment, then move on. 
> Don't read it.  It's not up to you to determine
> what the rest of us can and can not read.

How can you tell if you like a comment before you read it?

Seeing the user ID of the person making the comment is often an indicator of what kind of comment it’s going to be.

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Wow
How low the people have descended.
A person made a dumb choice, had their arm horribly ripped away, and the underlying callous disregard emerges.
For. Shame.

4451Puff Wrote:
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> There's no "official" at grade crossings in the vicinity, either for vehicles or bicycles/peds.
> Looks like the cyclist/woman/trespasser/victim et. al, was taking a shortcut across the tracks
> instead of taking the longer way via the roadside bike path beneath the underpass. 

Note the cross in your second picture. Likely a memorial for a person in the past who did not make it across the tracks.

"We received a report of a pedestrian struck by a train on the railroad overcrossing east of Seaward Avenue. One caller indicated that the pedestrian appeared to have lost her arm as a result of the collision." (Ventura Police)
Make that the CLOSED crossing east of Seaward Ave.

And yes, the City of Ventura fought UP and forced them to take down their fences.
https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/local/communities/ventura/2018/06/25/midtown-ventura-union-pacific-railroads-fences-coming-down/718454002/
 

Apparently there was a 47 yr old male initial report, object thrown
from the overpass, vehicle hit. Subsequent call pedestrian struck by train.
Died in hospital -- December 12, 2024.

kgrantly Wrote:
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> Apparently there was a 47 yr old male initial report, object thrown from the overpass, vehicle hit. Subsequent call
> pedestrian struck by train. Died in hospital -- December 12, 2024.

????????

Tominde Wrote:
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> kgrantly Wrote:
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> > Apparently there was a 47 yr old male
> initial report, object thrown from the overpass,
> vehicle hit. Subsequent call
> > pedestrian struck by train. Died in hospital --
> December 12, 2024.
>
> ????????

Confusion caused by the laziness of kgrantly to properly use quotes to clarify he was directly responding justalurker66 in the post above.

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PumpkinHogger Wrote:
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> Wow
> How low the people have descended.
> A person made a dumb choice, had their arm
> horribly ripped away, and the underlying callous
> disregard emerges.
> For. Shame.

You're so right.
They should have charged the engineer with armed robbery and
nominated her for a Darwin award.

Yours truly, 
Canny B. Arsed.