Passenger Trains > Questing about Santa Fe power

Did Santa Fe every pull the old heavy weight passenger cars with PA's for F7's? If so which trains? Thanks in advance to anyone who knows.

What time period are you asking about? 1950's, 1960's?

Probably the 1950's. When did heavy weights stop being used as passager cars?

Woodman Wrote:
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> Probably the 1950's. When did heavy weights stop
> being used as passager cars?

You had heavyweight cars, including the rider car, on the Mail trains right up to the end.

PHall Wrote:
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> Woodman Wrote:
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> > Probably the 1950's. When did heavy weights
> stop
> > being used as passager cars?
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> You had heavyweight cars, including the rider car,
> on the Mail trains right up to the end.

And the Grand Canyon into the late 60s, close to the end.

TAW

One of the reasons so many of the 'rider cars' (combines) survived was the use on the Fast Mail up through '67.   Two of them are now on the Texas State Railroad.   They were never air conditioned, either, pretty much throwbacks.  Started life as buffet-coaches.

I rode on the Grand Canyon as a kid in '65 and I remember something heavyweight in the consist as that 'dark green car'  but it could have been head-end.

The Santa Fe "Ranger" ran from Texas to Chicago, with terminal changes now and then.  It was steam and all heavyweight into the '50s.  When E-units on the CHI-LA main were being replaced with FT's, F3's, and F7's, the E units got to be regulars on the Ranger.  The heavyweight cars continued on that train until it was terminated in May 1960.  I think the same thing was true on the "Oil Flyer" from KC to Tulsa.  They almost always used  A and B units and something like 8 or 9 cars.  Those trains were locals and had a lot of head end cars, including an RPO.