Passenger Trains > #3 delay at Newton 12/01/25

#3 has been at Newton for several hours now. According to the train tracker it is"due to the crew conducting a train set adjustment". 

I presume they set a car out. Anyone got better details? 

Cumbres

appears they just departed a little after 8:30
 

Why does it take so long to set a car out? 

I can't answer that but they appeared to lose more time at Hutchinson, KS where it appears that a crew change occurred. They lost an additional 75 minutes there it appears. 


 

Woodman Wrote:
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> Why does it take so long to set a car out? 


list the steps  and the time you would think it would go thru for each one, my wrist is screwed up

And for a crew who hardly ever switches cars...

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Or the crew might have had to move a car with an electrical problem from the middle of the train to the end. I suppose that could get interesting.

they left a coach in newton, my best guess flat spots

Woodman Wrote:
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> Why does it take so long to set a car out? 
Locate seats for passengers and space for baggage. Put them there. Stow diaphragm curtains. Close and lock end doors that will be exposed during the switch move. Close end gates. Drop HEP. Disconnect and secure hep and comm cables. Proceed with switch move, remember to properly set angle cocks and cut out cocks as you go along. Low floor cars are hard and dangerous to crawl under. Remember to properly secure the set out car. Reassemble the train. Lace up the air hoses, connect all the cables, unlock doors, stow end gates, set diaphragm curtains, restore hep, perform required air test, and always be polite to passengers who are mad, overly nosey, or trying to help while you are doing something you have done twice since you hired out.

Can also take a looong time to swap the positions of engines on a westbound CZ at Soldier Summit, Utah in the middle of a raging snowstorm when the "dead-man's-throttle" annunciator failed on the lead locomotive.  And it doesn't help to have only a single engineer running the train, so the Assistant Conductor must be called forward to occupy one locomotive while the sole engineer is, in turn,  moving the other locomotive.

I witnessed this from the warm comfort of a Superliner economy bedroom about 15 years ago.


Hakk

Pig-Mauler Wrote:
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> Woodman Wrote:
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> > Why does it take so long to set a car out? 
> Locate seats for passengers and space for
> baggage. Put them there. Stow diaphragm
> curtains. Close and lock end doors that will be
> exposed during the switch move. Close end gates.
> Drop HEP. Disconnect and secure hep and comm
> cables. Proceed with switch move, remember to
> properly set angle cocks and cut out cocks as you
> go along. Low floor cars are hard and dangerous
> to crawl under. Remember to properly secure the
> set out car. Reassemble the train. Lace up the
> air hoses, connect all the cables, unlock doors,
> stow end gates, set diaphragm curtains, restore
> hep, perform required air test, and always be
> polite to passengers who are mad, overly nosey, or
> trying to help while you are doing something you
> have done twice since you hired out.

And that is all AFTER the time spent figuring out what the problem is, contacting a manager, contacting maintenance, going through remote troubleshooting, ...

dan Wrote:
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> they left a coach in newton, my best guess flat
> spots

I doubt that from Mac's video 3 had the usual 3 coaches!

ProAmtrak Wrote:
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> dan Wrote:
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> > they left a coach in newton, my best guess flat
> > spots
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> I doubt that from Mac's video 3 had the usual 3
> coaches!

3 hasn't ran with 3 coaches west of KC since November 20th. They left Newton with 1 yesterday morning after setting out the coach that had the hot bearing.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/25 16:53 by HoggerMatt.

ProAmtrak Wrote:
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> dan Wrote:
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> > they left a coach in newton, my best guess flat
> > spots
>
> I doubt that from Mac's video 3 had the usual 3
> coaches!+ car left in newton bagg-coach i think got a new wheel set today, maybe tonight pick it up?

dan Wrote:
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> ProAmtrak Wrote:
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> > dan Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > they left a coach in newton, my best guess
> flat
> > > spots
> >
> > I doubt that from Mac's video 3 had the usual 3
> > coaches!+ car left in newton bagg-coach i think
> got a new wheel set today, maybe tonight pick it
> up?

Mac's video was from August. He wrote when it was from. Lol



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/25 20:19 by HoggerMatt.

A friend sent me a photo of a crew putting new axles under one end of the coach yesterday. Wonder when it will be picked up.