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Passenger Trains > " and so it begins ..."Date: 03/03/26 13:45 " and so it begins ..." Author: mvrr10 449 has the 370 - 130 - 86 and a Viewliner II sleeper , Amfleet I Club/Dineet and an Amfleet I Business Class car out of Boston today , 1st revenue use of the ALC42 on the westbound Boston section of the Lake Shore Limited . All three units facing west and the 130 is in phase II striping .
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/04/26 09:44 by mvrr10. Date: 03/03/26 13:49 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: joemvcnj mvrr10 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > 449 has the 370 - 130 - 86 and a Viewliner II > sleeper , Amfleet II lounge and an Amfleet I coach > out of Boston today , 1st revenue use of the ALC42 > on the westbound Boston section of the Lake Shore > Limited . All three units facing west and the 130 > is in phase II striping . Two P42's to help the colici toddler along Date: 03/03/26 13:51 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: mvrr10 The power out of Boston usually works west out of Albany on 49 .
Date: 03/03/26 15:28 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: Spongebob-Trainguy " and so it begins ..."
Kosh B5 Date: 03/03/26 17:54 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: Chessie1963 A friend is traveling from Springfield to Rochester, I did the booking, and could not get space on 449. She wanted coach. Sold out. ONE coach? For real? So she is on a Trailways bus from SPG to ALB then to an Empire Serivce train. The return is on 448.
mvrr10 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 449 has the 370 - 130 - 86 and a Viewliner II > sleeper , Amfleet II lounge and an Amfleet I coach > out of Boston today , 1st revenue use of the ALC42 > on the westbound Boston section of the Lake Shore > Limited . All three units facing west and the 130 > is in phase II striping . Date: 03/03/26 18:04 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: Lackawanna484 9 pm ET the train is running about 50 minutes late. Now btw Schenectady and Utica NY running at 60 mph
Date: 03/03/26 19:03 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: mvrr10 Roger that , Spongebob-Trainguy !
Date: 03/03/26 19:08 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: mvrr10 449's delays were as a result of CSX freight trains starting around Worcester and continuing west on the Boston Line .
Date: 03/03/26 19:42 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: NPRocky I've been following the Empire Builder pretty closely and it looks like the modifications that Siemens recommended following the initial Charger winter meltdowns may have actually worked. The Chargers on the Empire Builder seem to be doing better than before. Hopefully I'm right and this can provide some comfort to understandably-nervous Lake Shore Limited folks.
Date: 03/03/26 19:48 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: joemvcnj I believe only certain Chargers have ASCES and can lead that train.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/04/26 00:36 by joemvcnj. Date: 03/03/26 20:08 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: NPRocky Yes. I saw something recently about only Chargers numbered 370 and up qualifying for assignment to the Lake Shore. We've actually seen a lot of "370s" out here lately. I guess Amtrak is maybe getting them broken out here on the West Coast.
Date: 03/04/26 03:35 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: JPB mvrr10 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > The power out of Boston usually works west out of > Albany on 49 . And ALC 370 continued to lead 49 west - it's due to pass VR's Elkhart live cam a few minutes after 0900 Wednesday 3/4/26. Date: 03/04/26 06:28 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: JPB Here's ALC 370 leading Amtrak 449 Lake Shore Ltd Boston section up Washington Hill past the Chester MA live cam at 1700 EST Tuesday 3/3/26 in freezing rain and then arriving Elkhart 16+ hours later (~37 minutes late) at 0920 EST Wednesday 3/4/26,
  Date: 03/04/26 07:53 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: mvrr10 Thanks JPB .
Date: 03/04/26 14:53 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: mvrr10 449 of March 4th : 111 - 129 - 134 with three cars , all units facing west .
Date: 03/05/26 11:53 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: biff The same three units led 48/448 east through Western NY this morning.
Posted from iPhone Date: 03/05/26 15:18 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: jp1822 Chessie1963 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > A friend is traveling from Springfield to > Rochester, I did the booking, and could not get > space on 449. She wanted coach. Sold out. > ONE coach? For real? So she is on a > Trailways bus from SPG to ALB then to an Empire > Serivce train. The return is on 448. > > mvrr10 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > 449 has the 370 - 130 - 86 and a Viewliner > II > > sleeper , Amfleet II lounge and an Amfleet I > coach > > out of Boston today , 1st revenue use of the > ALC42 > > on the westbound Boston section of the Lake > Shore > > Limited . All three units facing west and the > 130 > > is in phase II striping . Demand not equalling capacity for a long distance train - that's nothing new. One coach between Boston and Albany???? Amtrak couldn't have pulled in another business class car from the Boston Yard? Boston to Albany needs a minimum of two coaches at all times throughout the year. Date: 03/06/26 06:04 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: mvrr10 One coach since January when consist was changed .
Date: 03/07/26 01:51 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: joemvcnj And will remain without a 2nd coach until summer, nor will the Cardinal ever get a 3rd coach - opportunity costs of the Mardi Gras, which has Amfleet-2 coaches and a case of Amtrak poaching the LD network to support the corridors.
Posted from Android Date: 03/07/26 07:34 Re: " and so it begins ..." Author: mvrr10 The Boston section of the Lake Shore Ltd . usually returns to its regular consist in the Spring , CNOC has a call in the afternoon to tell terminals about the next day train make-ups needed and for "turns" .
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