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Date: 06/02/17 04:37
1000 new GE's for India
Author: jmt

http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/single-view/view/ge-transportation-unveils-indian-railways-evolution-locomotive.html

In the Antipodes this type is referred to as a dogbone

Note Tier 1 GEVO engines, I guess that 6000hp equates to 16 cylinders



Date: 06/04/17 02:57
Re: 1000 new GE's for India
Author: kgmontreal

Will this mean anything for the Alco powered locos there? Retirement?

KG



Date: 06/04/17 04:46
Re: 1000 new GE's for India
Author: jmt

For official intelligence out of India re new Alco's we are probably reliant on this site
http://www.dlw.indianrailways.gov.in/

What you have to realise with India is the the railways are Government owned, so the decision makers are Indian Civil Servants. These chaps (nearly all chaps) think and act differently to railroad employees in North America (and probably the rest of the planet outside of China). Until a few years ago India had a Communist style central planned economy, and the chaps in charge of Indian Railways have still to accept the reality of the current free market.
2015/16 Annual Report for example http://www.dlw.indianrailways.gov.in/view_section.jsp?lang=0&id=0,297,565
Compared with a North American railroad annual reports, this is rather quaint

Alco engine production (seems limited to 16 cylinder) has been transferred from DLW to Golden Rock

Archived annual reports have been removed from the DLW site, however DLW is still building Alco powered units for export. Indian loco exports are handled by the Quango RITES (to keep all of the boodle within the Civil Service loop)
Sri Lanka, Myanma, and Bangladesh is the main market. From memory Alco powered exports in 2015 were around 30

2016, https://ritesltd.com/upload/misc/Balancesheet/Final_AR-2015-16_English_web.pdf

"During the year, RITES secured major export orders from Myanma Railway for supply of eighteen MG diesel electric
locomotives and from Senegal for supply of six MG diesel electric locomotives."

If you want to count the number of Alco's still running, the whole of India loco list is here http://www.irfca.org/apps/locos/list
There will be Alcos running in India for at least the next 15 Years, if not 20



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/04/17 04:53 by jmt.



Date: 06/04/17 20:39
Re: 1000 new GE's for India
Author: mundo

And 800 Electric units.



Date: 06/05/17 06:26
Re: 1000 new GE's for India
Author: 86235

jmt Wrote:
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> "During the year, RITES secured major export
> orders from Myanma Railway for supply of eighteen
> MG diesel electric
> locomotives and from Senegal for supply of six MG
> diesel electric locomotives."

These aren't actually new builds, are they. The ones I saw in Myanmar were former Indian Railway's YDM4s made redundant by India's ongoing gauge conversion project.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/17 06:26 by 86235.



Date: 06/05/17 16:19
Re: 1000 new GE's for India
Author: jmt

The RITES report did not specifically state if new-build or rebuild. The whole document is ambiguous, Earlier it reported "four
MG diesel locomotives were also exported to Senegal during the year". These four will be the YDM4 rebuilds acquired by the now Indian owned Societe d’Exploitation Ferroviaire des ICS. It may be that the 6 quoted is in fact the above 4 plus 2 delivered outside the reporting period.

If the 18 delivered to Myanmar in 2016 are YDM4 agree, as casting of the 6 cylinder Alco block has ceased. New-build YDM4 supplied to Vietnam, Sudan, and Tanzania all had higher cabs, or high cabs and raised hood sections (too tall for Indian loading gauge). Prototypes of a Cape gauge new-build unit, with a 16 cylinder Alco engine have been tested in Mozambique



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