International Railroad Discussion > VLI runaway and collision (Brazil)

Hi, today we had a runaway of empty gondolas at EPM yard, near my town. The customer received the gondolas and left some in its privated yard. As we perceived, they forget o add a chock to prevent the runaway. The cars run about three Km and hit a couple of Vale dash 9 that are arriving at EPM yard. One girl was hurt near the crossing level but she is ok now. VLI cranes are on the way to clean the site.
Pics received from WhatsApp groups. 

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,

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More pics.

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1

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Wow!  Could have been much worse with many injuries.

Interesting.  Thanks for posting.

Cleaning the site

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1

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More pics of the cleaning operation today

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1

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No derail on the customer's siding?

No, the derail happened after the cars hit de Vale dash 9. It will be necessary to change de front bb truck. Another crane is coming to help this operation.

PHall Wrote:
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> No derail on the customer's siding?

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Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1

pedrop Wrote:
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> No, the derail happened after the cars hit de Vale
> dash 9.

PHall was referring to the mechanical device that derails inadvertently moving cars on a siding before they get to the main line. The verb and noun are both "derail."

Ray 

Oh, sorry for the mistake.
This kind of device us not used here.

Ray_Murphy Wrote:
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> PHall was referring to the mechanical device that
> derails inadvertently moving cars on a siding
> before they get to the main line. The verb and
> noun are both "derail."
>
> Ray 

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Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1

pedrop Wrote:
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> Oh, sorry for the mistake.
> This kind of device us not used here.
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> Ray_Murphy Wrote:
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> > PHall was referring to the mechanical device
> that
> > derails inadvertently moving cars on a siding
> > before they get to the main line. The verb and
> > noun are both "derail."
> >
> > Ray 
>
> Posted from Android

Maybe they should use them. Would have prevented this wreck.

I agree with you, but they say that it can cause more derailment if the yardmen forget to remove the derail device.


> Maybe they should use them. Would have prevented
> this wreck.

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1

pedrop Wrote:
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> I agree with you, but they say that it can cause
> more derailment if the yardmen forget to remove
> the derail device.
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> > Maybe they should use them. Would have
> prevented
> > this wreck.

A low speed one car derailment is much better then a multi car runaway wreck.
But it's not my equipment that's being destroyed.

I agree and did a suggestion to friends at VLI to test derail devices here too.




PHall Wrote:
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> pedrop Wrote:
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> > I agree with you, but they say that it can
> cause
> > more derailment if the yardmen forget to remove
> > the derail device.
> >
> >
> > > Maybe they should use them. Would have
> > prevented
> > > this wreck.
>
> A low speed one car derailment is much better then
> a multi car runaway wreck.
> But it's not my equipment that's being destroyed.

Posted from Android

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1

pedrop Wrote:
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> I agree with you, but they say that it can cause
> more derailment if the yardmen forget to remove
> the derail device.

Another method, used outside of North America, is known as Trap Points. This arrangement keeps the errant vehicle on the track, diverting it to a short spur: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Schutzweiche.jpg

A slow moving runaway vehicle comes to a rough stop against the bumper (buffer block). A big cut of cars may derail, but will still not be of the magnitude of a long, speed increasing runaway on the main track.

TAW

Intresting the narrow gauge track gets more use than the standard gauge looks like.