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Date: 11/25/19 18:23
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: pedrop

31) The Carvalho viaduct sfter Marumbi tunnel..

32) Note how the tracks are worn at the curve  and viaduct.

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano, MG
Minas Gerais Railways



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Date: 11/25/19 18:29
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: pedrop

33 - 36) Other views of Carvalho viaduct.

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano, MG
Minas Gerais Railways



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Date: 11/25/19 18:32
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: pedrop

37 - 39) After the raid in the mountain, Rony went to the bottom of the hill to visit Morretes station and yard, where he finished the trip.

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano, MG
Minas Gerais Railways



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Date: 11/25/19 18:36
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: pedrop

40) Old Morretes station.

41 - 42) Train in the yard.

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano, MG
Minas Gerais Railways



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Date: 11/25/19 18:44
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: pedrop

43) At Marumbi we can find this plate celebrating the centenary of Carvalho viaduct in 1984.

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano, MG
Minas Gerais Railways



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Date: 11/25/19 18:48
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: pedrop

44) To finish this series of pics and photos, a video of an ES43BBi at Morretes yard.
I hope you like the series.

Pedro

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano, MG
Minas Gerais Railways



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Date: 11/25/19 19:32
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: sp8234

WOW is all I can say about this post
Thank you
Tim
Hanesworth



Date: 11/25/19 19:39
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: goneon66

outstanding story, images, and video pedro.

out of curiosity, do you know what the speed is on that viaduct?

thanks again for the great post.........

66



Date: 11/25/19 19:52
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: exhaustED

Great post, very interesting!



Date: 11/25/19 23:07
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: boejoe

Pedro, the photography is outstanding.  Made me feel like I was there with your friend.  Excellent series of pictures.  



Date: 11/26/19 01:46
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: pedrop

Hi, the speed there is 25 km/h.

goneon66 Wrote:
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> outstanding story, images, and video pedro.
>
> out of curiosity, do you know what the speed is on
> that viaduct?
>
> thanks again for the great post.........
>
> 66

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano, MG
Minas Gerais Railways



Date: 11/26/19 08:01
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: mamfahr

> 31) The Carvalho viaduct after Marumbi tunnel..

Thank you very much for posting those photos.  They bring back great memories.  I worked on this railroad in 1998 when it was in the early days of privatization (FSA at that time).  I took a train trip Curitiba to Paranagua and back to become familiar with the line and it was one of the most interesting train trips I have ever taken.  When you are in the locomotive cab and come out of that tunnel onto the curved bridge you cannot see anything directly in front or next to the train, only the valley and mountains in the distance - looking to the left, it's like you are flying!  

A few other comments / questions:
- the vast majority of the traffic on the line is grain, moving for export through Paranagua.
- as of 1998, the line had a very interesting control system that I have not seen anywhere else in the world.  Switches at the ends of sidings would always route you to the right-hand track.  They were spring switches so they would allow trains to leave from the other track without needing to line the switch over or back.  Signals at the ends of sidings indicated whether trains could depart or not.  This was a very high capactiy system that operated safely and reliably for a relatively low cost; not sure why it is not more popular around the world...  
- when we operated the railroad, grain trains ran with 4 units on the head-end of the train and another set of units operating as helpers on the rear.
- what are the special cars next to the locomotives in the photos?  Are those "idler" cars necessary because of limited weight capacity on bridges?
- is there currently passenger service on the line?  As I recall, in 1998 they had limited passenger service but were hoping to discontinue it.

Thanks again for posting the photos and video.

Take care,

Mark     



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Date: 11/26/19 08:32
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: pedrop

Hi Mark,

Interesting that you worked in the old FSA. Any pictures of that time? Please open a thread to show them to us if you have any.

Well, that special car is called "Madrinha" and it does the transition from the big ES43BBi' to the cars. Since the locomotive is big, in the tight curves it could derail the cars behind it, as were common in FCA / VLI when they started to use the BB40's in Serra fo Tigre, that also has tight curves. The "madrinha" car has couplers with a larger angle of movement, like we see in the locomotive. Rumo run grain trains of 120 cars at those tracks, so it is common to use DPU in the end of the train.I this case, a "madrinha" car must be used with the DPU unit too.

The passenger train still in use at Paranaguá hill, but nowadays it runs from Curitiba to Morretes only.

45) An exemple of Madrinha car used by FCA / VLI

46) A view of the front coupler of a FCA BB40-2.

Note that there is a special kind of car called "Maromba" that is used as transition from different gauges, common seen where we have dual gauge tracks here in Brazil, like in my area.

mamfahr Wrote:

> - what are the special cars next to the
> locomotives in the photos?  Are those "idler"
> cars necessary because of limited weight capacity
> on bridges?
> - is there currently passenger service on the
> line?  As I recall, in 1998 they had limited
> passenger service but were hoping to discontinue
> it.
>
> Thanks again for posting the photos and video.
>
> Take care,
>
> Mark     

Posted from Android

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano, MG
Minas Gerais Railways



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Date: 11/26/19 08:54
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: tomstp

Thanks for this very nice posting of pictures.  Looks like it is in heavy jiungle territory with lots of rain.



Date: 11/26/19 10:43
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: retcsxcfm

Pedro,
Just wanted to let you know how much I loved
the pictures.Dense jungle and old buildings.But
missing is,where are all the people that live there?

Uncle Joe
Seffner,Fl.



Date: 11/26/19 11:32
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: DLM

Wow!!!  Great images and imformation.



Date: 11/26/19 12:33
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: pedrop

Hi Uncle Joe,

Just few people live in that mountains, most are Rumo employee. That is a Natural Park, like the Glacier Park in Montana.

Look this video
https://youtu.be/EN6rFCCjnNg

retcsxcfm Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Pedro,
> Just wanted to let you know how much I loved
> the pictures.Dense jungle and old buildings.But
> missing is,where are all the people that live
> there?
>
> Uncle Joe
> Seffner,Fl.

Posted from Android

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano, MG
Minas Gerais Railways



Date: 11/26/19 13:30
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: pedrop

Another good video can be watched here https://youtu.be/D7aOvSeHtuo

Posted from Android

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano, MG
Minas Gerais Railways



Date: 11/26/19 13:53
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: BobP

Very interesting indeed1



Date: 11/26/19 18:20
Re: A raid at Paranagua hill (Brazil
Author: 4489

If I ever get to Brazil, I would like the gentleman in the second photo to be my guide/bodyguard!



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