International Railroad Discussion > German Train Pictures 1962 and 1971

These are from Joe Boscoe's slides.  Joe wrote the captions. 

1.  Ravenna Viaduct is in the Black Forest (Schwarzwald) of southwestern Germany not too far from its borders with France and Switzerland.  Here a single track line, looking westward toward Freiburg, crosses a road on a girder bridge, passes through a tunnel and the valley on the concrete arch viaduct.  In German this area is called Hollental which translates as Hell's Valley.  1962  [This was probably on Ektachrome which has a tendency to  fade to pink.] 

2. Here is an 0-10-0T pulling a local in the Odenwald mountains north of Heidelberg and southeast of Darmstadt.  1962  [This was alsoprobably on Ektachrome which has a tendency to  fade to pink.] 

3. A passing steam passenger train running between Westerland on the Isle of Sylt in the North Sea and the mainland in the far northwestern part of the country.  The train runs on a lengthy dike (Hindenburg Damm) between the two points.  It also hauls automobiles (an early Auto Train adaption) as there are no roads/bridges over the water.  Loco is class 012.  Not sure of wheel arrangement.  1971



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4. Next two slides taken at the Westerland passenger station.  Train on the left is an express to Hamburg and Berlin.  Track 2 contains a local train pulled by a road switcher.  1971

5. Next slide shows a state of the art diesel in Westerland.  1971

6. This steam shot (class 023) was taken at Karlsruhe main station departing at 17:03 for Heilbronn.  Again, not sure of wheel arrangement.  1971


Thanks Joe,
Marrty Bernard

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Color corrected for you.  Hope that's OK.

Norm
 

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The 23 Class (023 after 1968) were 2-6-2's built in the 1950's and retired circa 1976.
The 012 class are oil fired Pacifics (4-6-2)

The 0-10-0T is an 82 class engine.



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Thanks for the color correction - BIG improvement.  Thanks also for the class and wheel arrangements.
JB

norm1153 Wrote:
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> Color corrected for you.  Hope that's OK.
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> Norm
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What did you use to do that color correction?   Marty

Just auto color correction in  Photoshop.   Single click, under "Image," then save.



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Tremendous scenery and structures, impressive to see the Marklin prototypes.

Did the same color fix with PhotoShop Elements, Amazon sells it for 60 bucks. Very worthwhile investment, makes the simple stuff really easy but has lots of room for more complex work.

That 0-10-0T is a 94.5, a Prussian design;  the 82 class of the 1950's was longer, with longer side tanks and just a more modern look.  Most of the former were used as heavy switchers, but some were used on mountain branch lines where their low top speed didn't matter, or as helpers;  the assignments of the 82's were originally similar, but as I recall they all ended up on the Hamburg docks.

SZ

Yes, you are correct, I see that now - Class 94.5
Thanks,

I think the coaches pulled by the 0-10-0T, class 94.5 have three axles.
jb

Those 3 axle coaches are postwar rebuilds of old side door compartment cars;  an oogle search for "3yg ümbauwagen" [ umb... also works ] will explain all.

The location of the first photo was a popular location for railway publicity photographs from both immediately before and after the war;  see the brochure photo below.
[  You can get bonus points for identifying the railcar in that photo....]

Best rgds, SZ

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Can't help with self propelled car identification but I'm sure I saw many like that in my three years in the military from '60 to '63.  Rode a couple times inthe small self propelled diesel cars that looked like a mini-bus on wheels.
jb

boejoe Wrote:
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> Can't help with self propelled car identification
> but I'm sure I saw many like that in my three
> years in the military from '60 to '63.

Well, you might have seen numerous similar electric cars, especially in the Stuttgart [ and to a much lesser extent Munich ] area -- but the pair illustrated on that brochure cover was unique.

It is remarkable, considering today's DB AG scene, how few AC electric railcars / MU's DB had in the 50's and 60's relative to the size of the system;  I think in those years you could perhaps spend an entire day at Köln or Frankfurt/M Hbf and not see a single one.

Best, SZ
 

Yeah, I have no idea what they  are !

Nice photos, Joe.  Thanks for sharing, Marty.  

I googled Ravenna Viaduct, apparently I went over it on my second German train ride, in 2015.  Didn't notice it, though.  

https://www.openrailwaymap.org/?style=standard&lat=47.91578116825674&lon=8.082311153411865&zoom=16
https://opentopomap.org/#map=16/47.91454/8.07711

Ted in OR



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The railcar in the brochure photograph is the unique ET 45;  the 'cupola' gives it away.  Following the conversion of the Höllentalbahn from 20 kV 50 Hz to the standard AC system, the unique* ET 255 01a/b set -- rebuilt from a standard but war-damaged ET 25 set in 1948-50 on the order of the French occupation authorities for 50 Hz testing -- was rebuilt again in 1961-63, this time to the standard system, becoming ET 45 01a/b.  In 1966-67 it was rebuilt again as a research vehicle for thyristor drives for the forthcoming 420 emu's, and was used in limited revenue service at various locations into 1970;  in 1972 it was retired, having been given the computer numbers 445 101 / 401 in the interim.  Truly a non-standard machine !

*Well, as far as German [ SWDE / DB ] ownership.  The French also had a second damaged ET 25 set rebuilt for 20 kV 50 Hz operation for SNCF usage;  do a TO search for Annemasse for my photos of those two vehicles;  SNCF later put control stands at both ends of each vehicle so they could operate independently.

Best regards, SZ