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Union Pacific's UGDEO sulphuric acid train rolls into North Yard in Salt Lake City for a crew change. One of my all time favorite unit trains.

James Belmont
Salt Lake City, UT

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Nice shots James! Question, where does this train run to and from? Looks like a pretty nifty train to catch.

John Crisanti
Longmont, CO

What was the number on the placards?

FrontRangeTrains Wrote:
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> Nice shots James! Question, where does this train
> run to and from? Looks like a pretty nifty train
> to catch.

The train runs from Kennecott Copper's smelter at Garfield to a fertilizer manufacturer near Pocatello, Idaho. Really a neat train that takes the scenic Ogden Sub through the Bear River Gorge.

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James Belmont
Salt Lake City, UT

Nice catch. Looks like the 13000 gallon tank car type Athearn makes in HO. How long does this train usually get?

SantaFeRuss

SantaFeRuss Wrote:
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> Nice catch. Looks like the 13000 gallon tank car
> type Athearn makes in HO. How long does this train
> usually get?

77 cars and 3400 ft long, 2x1 DPU

James Belmont
Salt Lake City, UT

EtoinShrdlu Wrote:
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> What was the number on the placards?


According to the 2012 ERG, it could be 1830, 1831, or 1832 depending on concentration among other things. Plain old sulfuric or sulphuric acid is 1830.

Bruce

It's the train that you hope doesn't derail when your Front Runner train is next to it going into Clinton....

Paul Liddiard
Spanish Fork, UT

Nice duo James. Looks like snow showers are imminent in the Wasatch range. Thanks for sharing.

Kent in Carmel Valley

Is there a speed restriction on this train? It seems to run slower than the others between SLC and Ogden.

GrandeGold Wrote:
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> The train runs from Kennecott Copper's smelter at
> Garfield to a fertilizer manufacturer near
> Pocatello, Idaho.

The fertilizer manufacturer is Agrium, Inc. at Epco, ID= EO. Nice shot of downtown and the mountains!

mapboy

Utah Railway #2008 in non-GWI paint was also sandwiched between a couple UP diesels on one of the trains going north not long after the train in your shot went by. Headed out for a rebuild, perhaps?



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Those tank trains are pretty neat. We have a dedicated train that carries tank cars of hot molten sulfur. Two locomotives leading and two pushing. One of my favorite trains.

GrandeGold Wrote:
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> SantaFeRuss Wrote:
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> 77 cars and 3400 ft long, 2x1 DPU


Short and heavy, ought to be a fun train to run!

>Plain old sulfuric or sulphuric acid is 1830

Fuming sulphuric acid. In this concentration, it doesn't attack steel, so the cars would be unlined. 1827 is "spent sulphuric acid", unless there have been changes to the numbers. H2SO4 is known as "the king of the chemicals" because it's used in so many manufacturing processes, including cloth for clothing.

>Is there a speed restriction on this train? It seems to run slower than the others between SLC and Ogden.

Probably a 30 mph one, which is typical for heavily populated areas.

F40PHR231 Wrote:
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> Is there a speed restriction on this train? It
> seems to run slower than the others between SLC
> and Ogden.

60 mph.

James Belmont
Salt Lake City, UT

F40PHR231 Wrote:
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> Utah Railway #2008 in non-GWI paint was also
> sandwiched between a couple UP diesels on one of
> the trains going north not long after the train in
> your shot went by. Headed out for a rebuild,
> perhaps?

Probably so, Chris. Sad. Now we're down to one GP38-2 in red and gray paint, the UTAH 2000.

James Belmont
Salt Lake City, UT

GREAT pics!!!!