Eastern Railroad Discussion > CSX Stanley Yard hump to be shutdown?

Per a post on the Toledo Railfans FB page it appears that the Stanley Yard Hump will be shutdown. They were running a Q394 and the counterpart from Stanley to Willard only to be humped again. That was barely 100 miles between two hump yards!

Posted from Android

how many cars were they humping each day?  Scuttlebutt says 1500 is the minimum for a hump on CSX

There only closing the hump. The rest of the yard is staying open for flat switching. The same has Atlanta Queensgate Birimingham and Cumberland.

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atl was 1k and stanley 1200 cars per day. i highly doubt cincy because its 1700 cars per day

ihb2920 Wrote:
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> There only closing the hump. The rest of the yard
> is staying open for flat switching. The same has
> Atlanta Queensgate Birimingham and Cumberland.
>
> Posted from iPhone

You have verification of these terminals, or are you just throwing them out there?

Atlanta (Tilford) already confirmed.....can't be sure on the rest.

n Wrote:
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> atl was 1k and stanley 1200 cars per day. i highly
> doubt cincy because its 1700 cars per day

According to CSX's annual report, Queensgate processed 496,299 cars in 2016, or 1360 a day on average.  However, a lot of changes have happened in and around the Cincinnati terminal within the past year.  The first major change was the introduction of Q560 and Q561.  These trains ultimately took the place of nearly half a dozen other trains, most of which either originated or terminated at Queensgate.  Next came the deemphasizing of the ex-L&N Cincinnati - Atlanta route and the ex-C&O towards Russell, KY.  This ultimately left Cincinnati with one major route through town; the Toledo Sub to the LCL / Indiana Sub directional running.  All other routes see fairly modest traffic.  Not including locals, I believe Queensgate is down to originating only seven road manifests a day.  There's also only as many terminating trains a day as well.  Now with a little more northbound traffic going via the LIRC to Indianapolis, it just seems that Queensgate is kind of off the beaten path now.

Andrew



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/17 09:42 by florida581.

florida581 Wrote:
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> According to CSX's annual report, Queensgate
> processed 496,299 cars in 2016, or 1360 a day on
> average.  However, a lot of changes have happened
> in and around the Cincinnati terminal within the
> past year.  The first major change was the
> introduction of Q560 and Q561.  These trains
> ultimately took the place of nearly half a dozen
> other trains, most of which either originated or
> terminated at Queensgate.  Next came the
> deemphasizing of the ex-L&N Cincinnati - Atlanta
> route and the ex-C&O towards Russell, KY.  This
> ultimately left Cincinnati with one major route
> through town; the Toledo Sub to the LCL / Indiana
> Sub directional running.  All other routes see
> fairly modest traffic.  Not including locals, I
> believe Queensgate is down to originating only
> seven road manifests a day.  There's also only as
> many terminating trains a day as well.  Now with
> a little more northbound traffic going via the
> LIRC to Indianapolis, it just seems that
> Queensgate is kind of off the beaten path now.
>
> Andrew

Thanks for the info. Funny thing though - I think of Queensgate as one of the newer yards, but I guess it is around 40 years old now.

ts1457 Wrote:
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> Thanks for the info. Funny thing though - I think
> of Queensgate as one of the newer yards, but I
> guess it is around 40 years old now.

Queensgate is indeed CSX's newest hump yard, opened in 1980.  CSX's other two Ohio hump yards, Stanley and Willard, are its first and second oldest, opened in 1931 and 1947 respectively.

Andrew

Willard and Stanley are the only non automated hump yards on CSX.
Both require a human to line switches for the bowl.
The Hamler Henry yard was planned at one time to replace both yards.

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farmer Wrote:
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> Willard and Stanley are the only non automated
> hump yards on CSX.
> Both require a human to line switches for the
> bowl.
> The Hamler Henry yard was planned at one time to
> replace both yards.

So they both have car retarder operators who manually control the retarders?

If Willard is the one to remain, I wonder if it will get modernized.

I guess the rumored new yeard between Garret and Fostoria is just that: a dead rumor.

drsilverstreak Wrote:
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> I guess the rumored new yeard between Garret and
> Fostoria is just that: a dead rum
or.


It is now.