Western Railroad Discussion > Any Caltrain F40's to be Preserved?

With Caltrain electrification infrastructure and trainsets fully in effect and now all of the JPBX F40's permanently sidelined, what does the future hold for those units? Are Niles Canyon Railway/Pacific Locomotive Association or California State Railroad Museum/Sacramento Southern options? Or, is the California Air Resources Board forcing them to be scrapped or shipped out of state if their careers were to continue?

The prime movers will be destroyed so of lttle interest unless just for display.
Regards, Jim Evans

They would make spiffy homeless shelters.
If they aren't already.

You can buy a 250,000 pound rolling paper weight if you really want one.  Moving it will certainly be costly.

https://www.theautopian.com/caltrain-is-selling-20-whole-locomotives-on-its-store-like-giant-pieces-of-train-merch/

 

Todd Clark
Canyon Country, CA
Trainorders.com

Three of the F40PH-2C units, 920, 921, and 922, are to be retained. All 6 MP36PH-3C locomotives are also to be retained. I think it's interesting that they are still using at least one of the locomotives slated for retirement on the Gilroy service per milepost20's post yesterday: https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?4,5922701

That's a great article that Webmaster posted. I bet Caltrain is just going to run the doomed diesels hard and put them away wet until they hit some maintenance issue or milestone that will make it worthwhile to relegate them to the deadline. 

broken_link Wrote:
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> Three of the F40PH-2C units, 920, 921, and 922,
> are to be retained. All 6 MP36PH-3C locomotives
> are also to be retained. I think it's interesting
> that they are still using at least one of the
> locomotives slated for retirement on the Gilroy
> service per milepost20's post
> yesterday: https://www.trainorders.com/discussion
> /read.php?4,5922701

Hey, if it still has time left before it's next required inspection why not use it?

I believe at least 2 museums inquired and were promptly told to go pound sand.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/25/24 22:07 by andrewamtrak.

andrewamtrak Wrote:
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> I believe at least 2 museums inquired and were
> promptly told to go pound sand.

That seems strange considering Caltrain is going above and beyond trying to have them not go to scrap: https://www.caltrainstore.com/special-items/p/caltrain-emd-f40ph-2-locomotive-used

They want running examples, not paperweights that just take up space. Have enough of that as it is





DutchDragon Wrote:
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> andrewamtrak Wrote:
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> > I believe at least 2 museums inquired and were
> > promptly told to go pound sand.
>
> That seems strange considering Caltrain is going
> above and beyond trying to have them not go to
> scrap:
> https://www.caltrainstore.com/special-items/p/calt
> rain-emd-f40ph-2-locomotive-used

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Typical California. What do you expect?

Have fun be safe,
Bruce " Doc" Jones. Sierra Madre CA

As of today, 9/26, there are a least a couple EMD F40s in use pn the Gilroy trains. #816 had one today.

Jim B

andrewamtrak Wrote:
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> They want running examples, not paperweights that
> just take up space. Have enough of that as it is
>
> DutchDragon Wrote:
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> > andrewamtrak Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I believe at least 2 museums inquired and
> were
> > > promptly told to go pound sand.
> >
> > That seems strange considering Caltrain is
> going
> > above and beyond trying to have them not go to
> > scrap:
> >
> https://www.caltrainstore.com/special-items/p/calt
>
> > rain-emd-f40ph-2-locomotive-used

A locomotive has to be running to be preserved? Apparently some museums have different concepts of preserving history than others.

DutchDragon Wrote:
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> andrewamtrak Wrote:
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> > They want running examples, not paperweights
> that
> > just take up space. Have enough of that as it
> is
> >
> > DutchDragon Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > andrewamtrak Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > > -----
> > > > I believe at least 2 museums inquired and
> > were
> > > > promptly told to go pound sand.
> > >
> > > That seems strange considering Caltrain is
> > going
> > > above and beyond trying to have them not go
> to
> > > scrap:
> > >
> >
> https://www.caltrainstore.com/special-items/p/calt
>
> >
> > > rain-emd-f40ph-2-locomotive-used
>
> A locomotive has to be running to be preserved?
> Apparently some museums have different concepts of
> preserving history than others.

Its not that so much as to many projects vs time and resources problem. 

I am a member at the Southern California Railway Museum, me amongst other people in this organization are entering the race in aquisition of one of these machines, we're trying to go after specifically one of the -2 Screamers (902,903,907,914) for use in the museum excursions. Unfortunately since a "bite" has to be taken out of the engine due to CARBs Tier 4 Grant, the engine only can be operated in MU operation via an operating locomotive from our vast collection. Right now we plan to get this F40 in along with Coaster 2105 and ATSF 5704 along with a few other coach cars i heard of once the perris connection project is also complete. If any of you guys would like to help us out on this journey, we have a fundraiser already up! Thank you and long live the F40s 

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA RAILWAY MUSEUM INC - Help Preserve Iconic California Commuter Locomotive (networkforgood.com)

DocJones Wrote:
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> Typical California. What do you expect?
>
> Have fun be safe,
> Bruce " Doc" Jones. Sierra Madre CA

Gotta love people who place blame on a government agency when another party enters into a contract with the government agency and has to abide by the conditions of the contract.