Western Railroad Discussion > UP Building America slogan and U.S. flag

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/22/20 08:41 by donstrack.

UP 5353 is one of a kind. The flag is placed farther back than the rest of the GEVO's, so there was no room to add the "Building America" and logo in the usual place. Because of the placement difference, GE put the logos in front of the flag. Not sure if it was planned that way or if it was an accident.

-Justin
RapidsRail.com

Picture of the Engineer's side Rochelle,IL 10-2-05
Test-trying to learn how to resize pictures for posting.

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The UP did this in purpose... they wanna try and see
if the building america and UP logo pickup the dirt
before gets to the flag...

Say that I'm out... <eg>

Ac4400cwgevo

Isn't the flag on this unit the same size as the C44AC's - and isn't it actually SMALLER on the rest of the GEVOs???

I thought that was the reason for this particular unit...

trails2rails Wrote:
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> Isn't the flag on this unit the same size as the
> C44AC's - and isn't it actually SMALLER on the
> rest of the GEVOs???
>
> I thought that was the reason for this particular
> unit...

I had originally typed that too, then I re-did my post because I wasn't completely sure on that. When I pulled up a photo of a standard GEVO paint job and compared it to a photo of the UP 5353, it appeared to me that the flags were the same size. It is a sure thing that the flag on the 5353 was placed about 2 doors farther towards the rear than a standard GEVO. I think this makes the flag look larger, and thus the rumors that the flag on the UP 5353 was the larger version.

It is true that the flags on the UP GEVO's are smaller than the flags on the C44AC's and SD70M's.

-Justin
RapidsRail.com

Interesting!!! Thanks for pointing this out...

There is another famous (infamous) GE paint shop graphic application error - the entire fleet of Conrail/GE LMS C40-8W's.

They have two different sized logos and the large one was placed on the front and rear and the small one on the flanks. It is widely believed this was a mistake...


Lou

also notice that the Z stripe is up higher on the hood of the #5353 than the rest of the GEVO's. Its very noticeable on the radiator wings, as on the 5353 the bottom portion of the wing is yellow wheras on the rest of the ES44AC fleet the red stripe rides along the bottom edge of the wing.

Bryan Jones

Sad part is they all end up in the soot black paint scheme in the end.

I posted photos of the engine back in August which you can find at this link

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=47221

Justin had posted a link to my pics Sept 22 on this site.

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,1003744,1003894#msg-1003894

I still think the decal set was taken from an SD70.

Chris
http://www.CaliforniaTrains.com

donstrack Wrote:
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> Has anyone noticed that UP's "Building America"
> slogan and the U.S. flag are in a new location?
> This is apparent on the shots of UP 5353 (a
> single-unit order) by "VegasRails".
>
> When did the change take place?
>
> John Bromley, are you in a position to know of the
> changes?
>
> Don Strack
> ...who wants to keep up on the changes to document
> the history, as shown here:
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> http://utahrails.net/up/paint/up-diesel-paint.php

I forgot about the raised stripe, so the flag probably is the larger version after all.

-Justin

Why do you say its a "one unit order" instead of just an experiment by GE/UP?

TV-10 Wrote:
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> Why do you say its a "one unit order" instead of
> just an experiment by GE/UP?
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>
The railroad will order engines in a series. For example UP 500-550 and then UP 551-555.

This engine was not part of a series. Meaning they ordered UP 5352 as the end of the series that proceeded it and likewise, UP 5354 started the next series. Making this a 1 unit order. That leads to the theory that they did not have a dedicated decal set for the engine, and therfore used a set that was available at the time.

Neither UP 5352 nor UP 5354 have this variation of the Building America decal set on them.

Chris
http://www.CaliforniaTrains.com

FYI, at the time of the first UP GEVO orders (February 2005), the UP5353 number slot was still occupied by an ex-SP GP40-2. This UP5353 (repainted from SP 7941 on 01.05.98) was renumbered to UP 1453 on 03.06.05. The UP5353 was delivered from GE in August 2005.


2005 UP GE C45ACCTE (ES44AC) Deliveries:

02/05 - UP 5354-5363, 5368, 5370-5377, 5380
03/05 - 5365, 5369, 5378, 5381-5399, 5402-5407, 5409-5416
04/05 - 5364, 5366, 5367, 5379, 5400, 5401, 5408, 5417-5427, 5429, 5431-5441, 5443, 5444, 5446-5448, 5453
05/05 - 5442, 5449-5452, 5454-5457, 5460, 5463-5477, 5483, 5484
06/05 - 5428, 5430, 5445, 5458, 5459, 5461, 5462, 5478-5482, 5485-5494, 5498-5513
07/05 - 5495-5497, 5514-5538, 5540-5542
08/05 - 5353, 5539, 5543-5553

Hope this helps...


-Ryan aka "espeeboy"
on the ex-WP Oakland Sub MP11.2

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chris_wlkr Wrote:
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> TV-10 Wrote:
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> > Why do you say its a "one unit order" instead
> of
> > just an experiment by GE/UP?
> >
>
> This engine was not part of a series. Meaning they
> ordered UP 5352 as the end of the series that
> proceeded it and likewise, UP 5354 started the
> next series. Making this a 1 unit order.