Western Railroad Discussion > C44-9W vs ES44C4

With the maiden run of BNSF 6656 West, one of the latest in the ES44C4 deliveries, the question to you "rails" who run these locomotives is: In your experience, what locomotive pulls better, the C-C trucked C44-9W or the A-1-A trucked ES44C4? Both are rated at 4400 horsepower but the DC motored C44-9W has a starting tractive effort at about 142000 lbs while the AC motored ES44C4 has a staring tractive effort at 144000 lbs with two fewer motors. How does this play out on the "high iron" with these long doublestacks and manifest trains?

SantaFeRuss

I'm not happy with either one of these.
For dynamic braking I would go with C44-9W as the ES44C4 just slid on the rails.
For pulling power I guess they are probably about even.

Hi, did they slide because of too much negative force on less axles?,does the dyno on these units work as good as a ES44AC?
thanks in advance.

Derek Gatt
Sydney,australia, NS

SantaFeRuss Wrote:
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> With the maiden run of BNSF 6656 West, one of the
> latest in the ES44C4 deliveries, the question to
> you "rails" who run these locomotives is: In your
> experience, what locomotive pulls better, the C-C
> trucked C44-9W or the A-1-A trucked ES44C4? Both
> are rated at 4400 horsepower but the DC motored
> C44-9W has a starting tractive effort at about
> 142000 lbs while the AC motored ES44C4 has a
> staring tractive effort at 144000 lbs with two
> fewer motors. How does this play out on the "high
> iron" with these long doublestacks and manifest
> trains?
>
> SantaFeRuss


I have run both units/// the ES44's are newer and the C44 are much older units in the fleet... there is really no difference otherwise...I agree would donate money to build a spur to scrap the GE's at the closest scrap yard.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/10/11 18:21 by SanJoaquinEngr.

In all I think that they are about the same. I would not give a dime for either one as they are junk.
Maybe I'm spoiled by EMD?