Western Railroad Discussion > BNSF SD70 macs assigned to oil trains effective 08-01-1

Effective August 1, 2013, BNSF will be assigning 50 EMD SD70MACs to its oil trains originating in North Dakota, to free up new high-horsepower locomotives for use on other trains throughout the BNSF system. The goal is to reduce the wear and tear on the new ES-series and SD70ACe locomotives, and assign the older worn down SD70MAC locomotives to the heavy oil trains. Assigned locomotives, confirmed by the BNSF Power Manager is as follows:

BNSF 9421
BNSF 9436
BNSF 9470
BNSF 9489
BNSF 9492
BNSF 9498
BNSF 9553
BNSF 9563
BNSF 9579
BNSF 9605
BNSF 9610
BNSF 9613
BNSF 9619
BNSF 9624
BNSF 9630
BNSF 9633
BNSF 9638
BNSF 9645
BNSF 9650
BNSF 9656
BNSF 9658
BNSF 9660
BNSF 9679
BNSF 9681
BNSF 9701
BNSF 9704
BNSF 9727
BNSF 9730
BNSF 9750
BNSF 9755
BNSF 9770
BNSF 9778
BNSF 9781
BNSF 9790
BNSF 9794
BNSF 9797
BNSF 9810
BNSF 9816
BNSF 9818
BNSF 9837
BNSF 9848
BNSF 9861
BNSF 9886
BNSF 9892
BNSF 9893
BNSF 9906
BNSF 9931
BNSF 9966
BNSF 9970
BNSF 9988

More SD70MAC locomotives will be assigned if demand increases.

Thank you for posting this

While SD70MACs have already been heavily used on oil trains, sounds like they really want to run them into the ground before they get returned off lease.

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR

No pretty power on the Oil trains.........

Oh yes, the MACs lead such pampered lives in the PRB.

Posted from Windows Phone OS 7

Sounds good. Assign the 70ACe motors too. They aren't being protected from heavy a** coal drags.

Ill pass the word along.

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tpwman Wrote:
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> Effective August 1, 2013, BNSF will be assigning
> 50 EMD SD70MACs to its oil trains originating in
> North Dakota, to free up new high-horsepower
> locomotives for use on other trains throughout the
> BNSF system. The goal is to reduce the wear and
> tear on the new ES-series and SD70ACe locomotives,
> and assign the older worn down SD70MAC locomotives
> to the heavy oil trains. Assigned locomotives,
> confirmed by the BNSF Power Manager is as
> follows:
>
> BNSF 9421
> BNSF 9436
> BNSF 9470
> BNSF 9489
> BNSF 9492
> BNSF 9498
> BNSF 9553
> BNSF 9563
> BNSF 9579
> BNSF 9605
> BNSF 9610
> BNSF 9613
> BNSF 9619
> BNSF 9624
> BNSF 9630
> BNSF 9633
> BNSF 9638
> BNSF 9645
> BNSF 9650
> BNSF 9656
> BNSF 9658
> BNSF 9660
> BNSF 9679
> BNSF 9681
> BNSF 9701
> BNSF 9704
> BNSF 9727
> BNSF 9730
> BNSF 9750
> BNSF 9755
> BNSF 9770
> BNSF 9778
> BNSF 9781
> BNSF 9790
> BNSF 9794
> BNSF 9797
> BNSF 9810
> BNSF 9816
> BNSF 9818
> BNSF 9837
> BNSF 9848
> BNSF 9861
> BNSF 9886
> BNSF 9892
> BNSF 9893
> BNSF 9906
> BNSF 9931
> BNSF 9966
> BNSF 9970
> BNSF 9988
>
> More SD70MAC locomotives will be assigned if
> demand increases.


They still gonna outlast any new/old GE junk.

Yeah, since you've ran a lifetime of SD70MAC's on the mainline to know how "beat up" they are.

Get real!

funnelfan Wrote:
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> While SD70MACs have already been heavily used on
> oil trains, sounds like they really want to run
> them into the ground before they get returned off
> lease.

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eightandsand Wrote:
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> Yeah, since you've ran a lifetime of SD70MAC's on
> the mainline to know how "beat up" they are.
>
> Get real!
>


So what happened Welch? Did you get yourself in trouble and have to come back under a new ID? Not a good way to live life as a bitter young man!

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR

Frontrunner Wrote:
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> tpwman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Effective August 1, 2013, BNSF will be
> assigning
> > 50 EMD SD70MACs to its oil trains originating
> in
> > North Dakota, to free up new high-horsepower
> > locomotives for use on other trains throughout
> the
> > BNSF system. The goal is to reduce the wear and
> > tear on the new ES-series and SD70ACe
> locomotives,
> > and assign the older worn down SD70MAC
> locomotives
> > to the heavy oil trains. Assigned locomotives,
> > confirmed by the BNSF Power Manager is as
> > follows:
> >
> > BNSF 9421
> > BNSF 9436
> > BNSF 9470
> > BNSF 9489
> > BNSF 9492
> > BNSF 9498
> > BNSF 9553
> > BNSF 9563
> > BNSF 9579
> > BNSF 9605
> > BNSF 9610
> > BNSF 9613
> > BNSF 9619
> > BNSF 9624
> > BNSF 9630
> > BNSF 9633
> > BNSF 9638
> > BNSF 9645
> > BNSF 9650
> > BNSF 9656
> > BNSF 9658
> > BNSF 9660
> > BNSF 9679
> > BNSF 9681
> > BNSF 9701
> > BNSF 9704
> > BNSF 9727
> > BNSF 9730
> > BNSF 9750
> > BNSF 9755
> > BNSF 9770
> > BNSF 9778
> > BNSF 9781
> > BNSF 9790
> > BNSF 9794
> > BNSF 9797
> > BNSF 9810
> > BNSF 9816
> > BNSF 9818
> > BNSF 9837
> > BNSF 9848
> > BNSF 9861
> > BNSF 9886
> > BNSF 9892
> > BNSF 9893
> > BNSF 9906
> > BNSF 9931
> > BNSF 9966
> > BNSF 9970
> > BNSF 9988
> >
> > More SD70MAC locomotives will be assigned if
> > demand increases.
>
>
> They still gonna outlast any new/old GE junk.

Whatever you have to keep telling yourself pal! The GE's may break fuel lines every now and then but the availability on the EMD's isn't stellar my friend! Ever hear of BNSF's SD75 M and I fleet and how they are first to be stored if they don't have to be run? They have and have had since delivery one of the worst mean time between failures of any BNSF locomotive class. Ever been around modern EMD FIRE computers and their ability to just grid lock themselves? Oh and why did CN cancel their order for SD70ACe's then? CN personnel are speculating its do to the poor reliability of the SD70M-2 fleet. I don't need to get into senseless back and forth arguments, but your constant childish pointless GE bashing is getting old in every thread Frontrunner. At least learn the facts and support your position. The new GE product is not the U Boat of yesterday and the current EMD product is so far down hill from the once great SD40 line its scary!

I am pretty impressed with how the old GE AC's have held up. The ole SP's are still pulling with the best of them. Most of them have spent a good portion of their lives above 5000 feet in run 8.... Maybe it is the Altitude :)

They have a few (tongue in cheek) rattles....but they pulllll!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/31/13 03:16 by jc76.

The new GE product is not
> the U Boat of yesterday and the current EMD
> product is so far down hill from the once great
> SD40 line its scary!


Yeah but the same can be said of the SD70Ace. While off to a poor start, they seem to be improving. GE didn't get it right overnight.

When did CN cancel their SD70ACe order?

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I'm not sure just been reading on Loconotes that CN's order has been cancelled

jc76 Wrote:
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> I am pretty impressed with how the old GE AC's
> have held up. The ole SP's are still pulling with
> the best of them. Most of them have spent a good
> portion of their lives above 5000 feet in run
> 8.... Maybe it is the Altitude :)
>
> They have a few (tongue in cheek) rattles....but
> they pulllll!


Exactly and those units don't owe anybody anything! Rode hard and into the ground comes to mind

NWRailfan Wrote:
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> I'm not sure just been reading on Loconotes that
> CN's order has been cancelled


Without seeing a sudden increase in GE's on order it's a little premature to blame it on anything. Sometimes orders are just canceled for any number of reasons.

Believe me, SD40-2 orders were canceled from time to time. Other times they are delayed.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/01/13 12:51 by NYSWSD70M.

NWRailfan Wrote:
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> jc76 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am pretty impressed with how the old GE AC's
> > have held up. The ole SP's are still pulling
> with
> > the best of them. Most of them have spent a
> good
> > portion of their lives above 5000 feet in run
> > 8.... Maybe it is the Altitude :)
> >
> > They have a few (tongue in cheek)
> rattles....but
> > they pulllll!
>
>
> Exactly and those units don't owe anybody
> anything! Rode hard and into the ground comes to
> mind


And the same can be said of the even older BN (and BNSF) SD70Mac's.....

NYSWSD70M Wrote:
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> NWRailfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm not sure just been reading on Loconotes
> that
> > CN's order has been cancelled
>
>
> Without seeing a sudden increase in GE's it's a
> little premature to blame it on anything.
> Sometimes orders are just canceled for any number
> of reasons.
>
> Believe me, SD40-2 orders were canceled from time
> to time. Other times they are delayed.


Oh no doubt NYSW, just repeating what has been said by a couple reliable sources without turning it into rumor fest.

Are the SD70MAC units the same locomotives that were delivered in the mid-1990s? They should be at or near the end of their lease period if the original term was 20 years. That was typical back in that era.

One good thing about this thread, I had ample opportunity to memorize the numbers. :-)

See .......

> > > BNSF 9421
> > > BNSF 9436
> > > BNSF 9470
> > > BNSF 9489
> > > BNSF 9492
> > > BNSF 9498
> > > BNSF 9553
> > > BNSF 9563
> > > BNSF 9579
> > > BNSF 9605
> > > BNSF 9610
> > > BNSF 9613
> > > BNSF 9619
> > > BNSF 9624
> > > BNSF 9630
> > > BNSF 9633
> > > BNSF 9638
> > > BNSF 9645
> > > BNSF 9650
> > > BNSF 9656
> > > BNSF 9658
> > > BNSF 9660
> > > BNSF 9679
> > > BNSF 9681
> > > BNSF 9701
> > > BNSF 9704
> > > BNSF 9727
> > > BNSF 9730
> > > BNSF 9750
> > > BNSF 9755
> > > BNSF 9770
> > > BNSF 9778
> > > BNSF 9781
> > > BNSF 9790
> > > BNSF 9794
> > > BNSF 9797
> > > BNSF 9810
> > > BNSF 9816
> > > BNSF 9818
> > > BNSF 9837
> > > BNSF 9848
> > > BNSF 9861
> > > BNSF 9886
> > > BNSF 9892
> > > BNSF 9893
> > > BNSF 9906
> > > BNSF 9931
> > > BNSF 9966
> > > BNSF 9970
> > > BNSF 9988

Bill Miller
Galt, ON