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Date: 08/06/13 17:21
KCS getting 25 "ACes"
Author: nygiant

KCS is getting 25 SD70ACe's by the end of the year.



Date: 08/06/13 17:57
Re: KCS getting 25 "ACes"
Author: KB5WK

Do you have a link? or who is the source of this news?



Date: 08/06/13 18:04
Re: KCS getting 25 "ACes"
Author: KB5WK

Its true

From Trains newswire:

By Chris Guss
Published: August 6, 2013

KANSAS CITY, Mo. – Kansas City Southern has placed an order with Electro-Motive
Diesel for 25 SD70ACes. The locomotives will be delivered starting in late
November. Assembly of the order will be split between the U.S. and Mexico. EMD
will assign 13 locomotives to be built at Bombardier Transportation’s Sahagun,
Mexico, plant, while the remaining 12 will be constructed at Progress Rail’s
Muncie, Ind., facility. Road numbers for the new SD70ACe locomotives will be
Nos. 4131-4155.

The company already has 143 SD70Aces, including three of the four former EMD
demonstrator SD70ACes that were numbered EMDX Nos. 71-73. The three former
demonstrators now wear KCS Nos. 3997-3999.



Date: 08/06/13 18:15
Re: KCS getting 25 "ACes"
Author: bnsfsd70

Excellent. There are few things prettier to shoot than a fresh Belle.

- Jeff Carlson

Posted from iPhone



Date: 08/06/13 18:20
Re: KCS getting 25 "ACes"
Author: cripdl109

Are not the KCS SD70ACE's already numbered up to 4139 ???



Date: 08/06/13 18:29
Re: KCS getting 25 "ACes"
Author: BobE

cripdl109 Wrote:
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> Are not the KCS SD70ACE's already numbered up to
> 4139 ???


The Diesel Shop says 3997-4129. Anyone wanna know why they'd skip over 4130?

BobE



Date: 08/06/13 18:39
Re: KCS getting 25 "ACes"
Author: SCAX3401

cripdl109 Wrote:
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> Are not the KCS SD70ACE's already numbered up to
> 4139 ???

Yes, the current SD70ACE fleet is numbered to 4139. The last order in 2011 was for 10 units numbered 4130-4139.

In face, the 4137 is the "star" of this previous Trainorders post:

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,2920605,2920605#msg-2920605



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/06/13 18:45 by BNSF6400.



Date: 08/06/13 21:34
Re: KCS getting 25 "ACes"
Author: SOO6617

This capacity is from the cancelled CN order.



Date: 08/06/13 22:53
Re: KCS getting 25 "ACes"
Author: NWRailfan

So will this KCS order be the first production units with individual axle control? I ask because the CN order was, and now these take their place instead



Date: 08/06/13 23:34
Re: KCS getting 25 "ACes"
Author: Guernseygirl

bnsfsd70 Wrote:
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> Excellent. There are few things prettier to shoot
> than a fresh Belle.
>
> - Jeff Carlson
>
> Posted from iPhone


Agreed!!

GG



Date: 08/07/13 05:39
Re: KCS getting 25 "ACes"
Author: sp8192

KCS 4130 - KCS 4139 were sold and are now KCSM 4130 - KCSM 4139.

BNSF6400 Wrote:
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> cripdl109 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Are not the KCS SD70ACE's already numbered up
> to
> > 4139 ???
>
> Yes, the current SD70ACE fleet is numbered to
> 4139. The last order in 2011 was for 10 units
> numbered 4130-4139.
>
> In face, the 4137 is the "star" of this previous
> Trainorders post:
>
> http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,2
> 920605,2920605#msg-2920605



Date: 08/07/13 07:27
Re: KCS getting 25 "ACes"
Author: fwwr5007

sp8192 Wrote:
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> KCS 4130 - KCS 4139 were sold and are now KCSM
> 4130 - KCSM 4139.
>


Had not heard that, but there is photo evidence out there (note the new logo, but not the addition of a "De Mexico" on the long hood's flank...and the appropriate disclaimer that this is "Not My Photo"):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3449139

I suppose the 25 new ones are going to be KCS proper? Or do we know?
Will they have CN's red DPU lights?



Date: 08/07/13 11:30
Re: KCS getting 25 "ACes"
Author: BobE

To date, KCS and KCSM have not duplicated numbers. SP and subsidiary SSW numberings were like that, too, though KCS/KCSM have solid blocks of digits vs the SP numbering "system" of haphazardly dropping a few SSWs in the middle of the SPs.

BobE



sp8192 Wrote:
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> KCS 4130 - KCS 4139 were sold and are now KCSM
> 4130 - KCSM 4139.
>
> BNSF6400 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > cripdl109 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Are not the KCS SD70ACE's already numbered up
> > to
> > > 4139 ???
> >
> > Yes, the current SD70ACE fleet is numbered to
> > 4139. The last order in 2011 was for 10 units
> > numbered 4130-4139.
> >
> > In face, the 4137 is the "star" of this
> previous
> > Trainorders post:
> >
> >
> http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,2
>
> > 920605,2920605#msg-2920605



Date: 08/07/13 14:37
Re: KCS getting 25 "ACes"
Author: tx_trainman43

Wish KCS would also cancel this order and get SD30ECOs instead! Cheaper and look ALOT better than ACEs!



Date: 08/08/13 13:04
Re: KCS getting 25 "ACes"
Author: DoctorThunder

Right... because looks mean a thing.



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