Western Railroad Discussion > 50 years of change

I took a photo this afternoon of the Coast Starlight leaving Klamath Falls about eight hours late. It brought to mind a photo I took at Suisun-Fairfield about fifty years ago of Alco PA's leading the Cascade. Which do you prefer?

Robert Morris Photography
http://www.snowcrest.net/photobob/index1.html

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Robert, I'll take door number two.

Is there any doubt??

Norm

Norman Orfall
Helendale, CA
TIOGA PASS, a private railcar

Very cool. I love before and after pics. If there had not been a following out of the relatives in 1964 I would have been sent to Oregon from Los Angeles for the summer on that train, bummer...

Both are nice photos, but -- #2, without a doubt!
What's not to like in your photo of PAs powering
the Cascade?
SP ROOLZ!!

That's awesome. Well done

Uncanny similarities of angles and elements: classic Photobob. Otherwise, two different worlds. I'll take the old one too, big shocker there...

~ BZ

Mainline CWR in the first image!!!!

Michael McInerney
Marion, South Australia,

Great shots, silly question ;-)
JB

Can I have a couple of years to think about it?

Love those before and after shots.
Great catch at just the right time!
(So much for "Tier 4" emissions...)

Excellent composition, Bob! And a fine example of the very best (photo #2) and worst of passenger locomotive design.

Yes, the prize is DEFINITELY Door #2 !

Bob

SP Alco PAs are the best. Since the Cascade was a night train, how late was it out of K. Falls?

Gerry

Posted from Android

Not as easy a question as I first thought....From a visual point of view, pic 2 wins the day....but how about from a rider point of view....

By the time the SP picture was taken, what was the condition of the train interiors and equipment? Since the Starlight on Amtrak appears to be one of their "better" trains, could a rider have preferred it? Inquiring minds want to know...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/31/13 09:09 by Daveb.

Even being the kid that I am, I have to go with pic #2. Looks like the P42 in the first pic is giving its best PA impression though! Are we sure they don't have ALCo prime movers in them?

I'll take door #1. Alco PA's were the ugliest locomotives ever made.

Eric

That was a flat nosed statement!!...

Quite a comparison!!!! Thanks for sharing. I also LIKE Pic 2!!!

Awesome shots Bob. Looks like those P42s were trying to match the smoky ALCos leaving the station. Still, I'll stick with the PAs :-)

Thanks for sharing,
~Ryan