Western Railroad Discussion > Bailey Yard manifest traffic?

It was asked at the end of the topic "The dwindling use of the box car" http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,3746204,page=2 about the manifest traffic in and out of Bailey Yard in North Platte, NE. I've attempted to put together a list of those manifest trains. Please chime in with any additions and / or corrections.

Bailey East

Originate:
MNPCB North Platte, NE - Council Bluffs, IA
MNPCBB North Platte, NE - Council Bluffs, IA
MNPFW North Platte, NE - Fort Worth, TX
MNPKC North Platte, NE - Kansas City, MO
MNPNL North Platte, NE - North Little Rock, AR
MNPPB North Platte, NE - Pine Bluff, AR
MNPPR North Platte, NE - Proviso, IL
MNPSS North Platte, NE - South St. Paul, MN
QNPAS North Platte, NE - East St. Louis, IL A&S
QNPCXP North Platte, NE - East St. Louis, IL CSX Q372
QNPEL North Platte, NE - Chicago, IL NS 14A
QNPPR North Platte, NE - Proviso, IL

Terminate:
MASNP East St. Louis, IL A&S - North Platte, NE
MCBNP Council Bluffs, IA - North Platte, NE
MCHNP Chicago, IL BRC - North Platte, NE
MELNP Chicago, IL NS 33E - North Platte, NE
MFWNP Fort Worth, TX - North Platte, NE
MINNP East St. Louis, IL CSX Q686 - North Platte, NE
MKCNP Kansas City, MO - North Platte, NE
MLDNP Laredo, TX - North Platte, NE
MNCNP Columbus, NE NC - North Platte, NE
MPRNP Proviso, IL - North Platte, NE
MSSNP South St. Paul, MN - North Platte, NE
MVPNP Valley Park, MN - North Platte, NE
MWTNP Wichita, KS - North Platte, NE
QNLNP North Little Rock, AR - North Platte, NE

Bailey West

Originate:
MNPHK North Platte, NE - Hinkle, OR
MNPNA North Platte, NE - Nampa, ID
MNPNY North Platte, NE - North Yard, CO
MNPPC North Platte, NE - Pocatello, ID
MNPPT North Platte, NE - Portland, OR
MNPRO North Platte, NE - Roper, UT
MNPRV North Platte, NE - Roseville, CA
MNPRVB North Platte, NE - Roseville, CA
MNPTG North Platte, NE - TG Soda, WY
MNPWC North Platte, NE - West Colton, CA

Terminate:
MGRNP Green River, WY - North Platte, NE
MHKNP Hinkle, OR - North Platte, NE
MNYNP North Yard, CO - North Platte, NE
MPDNP Portland, OR - North Platte, NE
MRONP Roper, UT - North Platte, NE
MRVNP Roseville, CA - North Platte, NE
MWCNP West Colton, CA - North Platte, CA
QCONP Eugene, OR CORP - North Platte, NE
QFRNPP Fresno, CA - North Platte, NE
QHKNP Hinkle, OR - North Platte, NE
QNANPP Nampa, ID - North Platte, NE
QPCNPP Pocatello, ID - North Platte, NE
QRVNPP Roseville, CA - North Platte, NE

Andrew

Edit: Updating the list as the info comes in.

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Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 05/21/15 02:26 by florida581.

They have abolished the MNPKCB, MNPKS, and the MKSNP.  The only North Platte-Kansas City train currently operating is the MKCNP and the MNPKC. 

Thanks Andrew. You have done well. I see the acronymns are rapidly approaching the six letter BNSF designations.

Bob Krieger
Cheyenne, WY

Well, now that I've had a chance to wake up a bit more, there is also no QNPINP anymore. All that traffic is run on the QNPCXP which more often than not, runs at over 10000'. You can also add a QNPAS. This train makes a set out and pickup at Topeka and runs to the Alton and Southern in St. Louis. 

 

"Manifest train" does not necessarily mean "boxcars." I often see 100-car manifest trains here in Ohio that have fewer than five boxcars -- sometimes none at all! Lots of covered hoppers (plastics, grain and grain products, sand, and various minerals), various types of gondolas (metals and scrap), centerbeam flats (lumber, wallboard, etc.), and tank cars (chemicals, agricultural oils, and petroleum products) though.

There is also a QNPCH, MCHNP to/from BRC at Chicago. 

-Dalton 

toledopatch Wrote:
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> "Manifest train" does not necessarily mean
> "boxcars." I often see 100-car manifest trains
> here in Ohio that have fewer than five boxcars --
> sometimes none at all! Lots of covered hoppers
> (plastics, grain and grain products, sand, and
> various minerals), various types of gondolas
> (metals and scrap), centerbeam flats (lumber,
> wallboard, etc.), and tank cars (chemicals,
> agricultural oils, and petroleum products) though.

That's what a manifest train is, just a junk train with all sorts of types of cars

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Was the MNPVP abolished?

Also, what is "TG Soda"?

TIA,

Rob L.

rob_l Wrote:
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> Was the MNPVP abolished?

I'm not 100% sure. I was told that the Valley Park traffic goes on either MNPCB or MNPCBB, is reblocked, and then sent on a MCBVP. Not sure if this is still the case.

> Also, what is "TG Soda"?

TG Soda Ash Inc. I'm figuring that MNPTG is almost all empty covered hoppers running directly to the mines instead of getting reswitched at Green River.

Of course, being from Florida, this is just info passed down to me from people in that area.

Andrew

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"Also, what is "TG Soda"? "

TG Soda stands for Texas Gulf Soda, a mine west of Green River, Wyoming.

Dick
Roosevelt, Utah

2ebright Wrote:
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> "Also, what is "TG Soda"? "
>
> TG Soda stands for Texas Gulf Soda, a mine west of
> Green River, Wyoming.

Thanks, Dick. Must be the only manifest train named for a shipper.

Best regards,

Rob L.

I'm surprised nobody mentioned that all the people who say "oh I see boxcars everyday", etc., seem to all be from the east coast. There are plenty of manifest up and down the west but most nearly devoid of "house cars", eg. boxes, reefers, RBLs.

Thanks for the list.....

somewhere a few years ago I read or heard that UP handled more "loose cars"  than any other railroad.  Probably why they are planning yet another hump yard at Hearne, TX.

Mexrail
 

rob_l Wrote:
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> 2ebright Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "Also, what is "TG Soda"? "
> >
> > TG Soda stands for Texas Gulf Soda, a mine west
> of
> > Green River, Wyoming.
>
> Thanks, Dick. Must be the only manifest train
> named for a shipper.
>

Guilford Transportation Industries used to run a train symbolled SDPO from Hinckley, Maine to Portland, Maine that primarily handled traffic from the S.D. Warren mill at Hinckley, near Waterville. The mill is now Sappi; I don't know if Pan Am Railways still runs the SDPO or if that symbol has since been changed.

MINNP is Q686 not Q687

Lewis M.
Decatur, IL

> It was asked at the end of the topic "The dwindling use of the box car" about the manifest traffic in and out of Bailey Yard in North Platte, NE. I've attempted to put together a list of those manifest trains.

Hello,

I wasn't in on the original discussion so I don't know the context of this, but I thought it might be interesting to post train info for the same corridor from 1957 to allow comparison vs. the "Classic Era".

Here are all perishable & manifest trains that departed No. Platte eastbound Sept 1, 1957:

"No. Platte - Lexington Local"
OG 116
"Stock / Manifest"
"South Manifest"
ACUX 14 / PNF 421
1 AKF 7
RV 813 / PNF 422
1 KF 7
RV 814
CN 74 / RV 815
2 KF 7
CBX 3 / HF 241 / RV 816
RV 817 / RV 819
3 KF 7
OVE 4 / RV 818 / RV 820
2 AKF 7
CN 55 / 1 UTX 4 / WP 406/407/408
OLS 5 / Mfst
4 KF 7
NPV 7 

Total 20 trains: 12 via Council Bluffs, 7 to KCity, 1 local (as far as Lexington); in all 1723 loaded cars, 141 empties.



Westbound arriving North Platte the same day:

NLS 6 / CUCBF 6
PFE's
KCMOS 6
K-313
"Mdse"
"Mtys"
AKC - COLO 7
K-314
ACB / CLS 7
"Mtys"
COLO 7
"Mtys"
LAF 7
SPF 7
CBNWF 7
"1 KCF 7"
" ? cars "
"2 KCF 7"


Total 18 trains: 12 from Council Bluffs, 6 from KCity, no local that day; in all 705 loaded cars, 1161 empties.

As a sidenote, the average car "dwell time" at North Platte that day was right at 3 hours (eastbound), with the quickest cars moving through in 1.9 hours, the slowest in 6.3 hours.  The westbound merch. trains were there for only an hour or so (set outs, pick ups, power & caboose changes only, trains weren't classified), I don't have data on the drag freights but imagine their cars would have hung around for 8-12 hours, give or take, with many of those being empty PFEs that were cleaned & serviced during that time.  Hard to imagine those figures given the way the RR works today, governed by a completely different operating philosophy that results in No. Platte averaging over 24 hours dwell...  

Getting back to boxcars, it's clear they aren't used as often today as in the past (they were around 60% of all cars through No. Platte in the 1950s). The products that boxcars handled in the 1950s are still moving mostly by rail but in other cartypes and in greater volumes than ever (lumber/plywood still moving by flatcar & some boxcar, merchandise moving by container/trailer, grain moving by covered hopper, etc). In short, they've developed specialized cartypes that move specific products more efficiently and productively and that's been the reason for the decline in boxcar use.

Take care,

Mark