Western Railroad Discussion > How many SD9043s are left on the up?

How many did the up start with? How many were sold to ns?
Has any Ben scrapped?
Where are the remaining ones stored?
Any chance for them to be reactivated?
Thanks

UP 8000-8308, 309 units.

100 went to EMD which then went to NS to become SD70ACU's.

3 or 4 others were wrecked so there are a little over 200 sitting around.

Bill Miller
Galt, ON



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/08/18 13:06 by CCMF.

CCMF Wrote:
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> UP 8000-8308, 309 units.
>
> 100 went to EMD which then went to NS to become
> SD70ACU's.
>
> 3 or 4 others were wrecked so there are a little
> over 200 sitting around.


Thank you sir.

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I don't look for them to be reactivated....they have been in storage for years.

I look for them to be sold off....

Maybe NS can buy and rebuild more... They have 150 ex-Conrail Dash-8s that aren't getting any younger, and new ET44ACs are quite expensive...

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MC6853 Wrote:
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> Maybe NS can buy and rebuild more... They have 150
> ex-Conrail Dash-8s that aren't getting any
> younger, and new ET44ACs are quite expensive...
>
> Posted from Android

We shall see.....

I have had this thought for awhile now.

MC6853 Wrote:
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> Maybe NS can buy and rebuild more... They have 150
> ex-Conrail Dash-8s that aren't getting any
> younger, and new ET44ACs are quite expensive...
>
> Posted from Android

NS is in the process of converting all of the C40-9's and most of C40/44-9W's into AC44C6M's, and the standard cabbed SD70's into SD70ACC's. These conversions will give them nearly 700 units that have been upgraded from DC to AC units. There also happens to be an SD80AC program planned at some point, when it will start, I don't know.

Though the SD40E & SD60E conversions were deemed fairly successful, the Dash 8.5-40CW program has not worked well at all. Of the 13 units originally slated for rebuild, three are in service, two are in Roanoke waiting for rebuild and the remaining 8 are currently stored away.

Russ

Is this the same UPRR that ive heard is power short?

What's the deal with Norfolk Southern removing cab signaling equipment on most C40-8Ws? Every time I conduct a train with one of the NS C40-8Ws the old cab signaling equipment was removed. Are they planning on installing new cab signaling equipment on the C40-8Ws or will NS retire them in the future?

MaMan15 Wrote:
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> What's the deal with Norfolk Southern removing cab
> signaling equipment on most C40-8Ws? Every time I
> conduct a train with one of the NS C40-8Ws the old
> cab signaling equipment was removed. Are they
> planning on installing new cab signaling equipment
> on the C40-8Ws or will NS retire them in the future?

No new cab signaling equipment will be installed...they will be retired in the next several years.


Chris Toth
NSDash9.com

The second generation SD9043’s are stored around the system.

These have had the frame fixes and have the conductors computer screen.

I’m not sure why they are not used with the surge fleet - but I know the older computer software no one likes. The -9’s and SD60’s with the basic computers and analog controls just seem to work.

Power wise, UP rates the -9 almost the same as the 9043. So I’d suspect it comes down to fuel consumption.

Both models essentially have common engine parts etc available.

Aside from that, they may just be holding out for another good offer to offload them.

I liked getting them back in th day as the conductors desk was the best EMD ever made when I sat over there.

30 or so stored at Pueblo CO don’t look serviceable.

The fleet started as 309 units. 205 are still on the UP, all stored. 4 were wrecked over the years. And there are the 100 that went to the NS.

The SD60M and C44-9W deadlines are currently being cleaned out pretty quickly. I wonder if we are going to get to a point where they start digging into the SD9043AC fleet? Remember the UP has basically no new units on order currently, outside of the 50 or so SD70AH tier 4 units that maybe someday will show up from Progress Rail.

ble692 Wrote:
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> The SD60M and C44-9W deadlines are currently being
> cleaned out pretty quickly. I wonder if we are
> going to get to a point where they start digging
> into the SD9043AC fleet? Remember the UP has
> basically no new units on order currently, outside
> of the 50 or so SD70AH tier 4 units that maybe
> someday will show up from Progress Rail.

I doubt it....