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Date: 07/22/19 13:35
UP Denver 36th Street Yard "Curtailment"
Author: StStephen

On the UP 2nd Quarter Presentation, their slide for the Unified Plan 2020 Update shows the Denver 36th Street Yard with a label of "Curtailment".  Assume they will move manifest traffic to the former DRGW North Yard? Since 36th Street is adjacent to the UP ramp in Denver (on the east side), and UP has sold off (or let go of the option) on the Brighton Yard land, any chance they will expand this metro yard similar to what they've done at LATC (old Shops Yard) in Los Angeles?  While the land is pretty valuable around this site, and seems like it would be prime for a developer to buy up and turn into more condos, UP seems to be doing renovations and capacity enhancements at existing intermodal ramps, rather than green-field facilities.  The current ramp configuration has 4 +/- 2000' stub working tracks.  Re-configuring the existing manifest area might give 3 to 5 double-ended tracks in the +/- 3000' tracks with a lot more parking.

Bruce

 




Date: 07/22/19 14:19
Re: UP Denver 36th Street Yard "Curtailment"
Author: pdt

Ahhh...the famous "how to lie with statistics" graph.

Look at it quickly, and it looks like train lengths have doubled.  Looks at it closely, and ull see that there is only a 10% increse.  AND...its maximum train length, not average train length.   So chances are, the average 100 car train has increased in length to 103 cars!

What a joke...  Moving the deck chairs in order to ask for a higher bonus for top mgmt.   Too bad stockholders are lemmings.

 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/22/19 14:29 by pdt.



Date: 07/22/19 14:39
Re: UP Denver 36th Street Yard "Curtailment"
Author: jtwlunch

The number every analyst looked over was the 61% Trip Plan compliance.  What did that cost the UP in opportunity costs and what did it cost their shippers to make up with trucking or holding extra inventory to cover UP not delivering?  Would UP save money with compliance in the 90's or spend a lot more money to achieve a decent performance?



Date: 07/22/19 15:59
Re: UP Denver 36th Street Yard "Curtailment"
Author: cctgm

Glad or maybe not that I,  retired by trip plan compliance in the 60% range for very long and you would be looking for a new job as a manager. Every terminal I worked in was in the high 90% we always looked to make 100% and at times did , this is a reflection on the plan not working as intended , they state PSR takes handling moves out and helps better velocity, from that one statistic it looks like lost opportunities  of course serving the customers is now not a priority and cutting resources and people to make shareholder profits it where it is at.  I watched an old movie on TMC just the other day Called Executive tower. This would be good viewing for todays hedge funds and upper management of many railroads and other companies.       



Date: 07/22/19 19:11
Re: UP Denver 36th Street Yard "Curtailment"
Author: inCHI

What is "trip plan compliance?" Thanks for any explanation.



Date: 07/24/19 23:34
Re: UP Denver 36th Street Yard "Curtailment"
Author: dan

they were just adding tracks too



Date: 07/25/19 05:47
Re: UP Denver 36th Street Yard "Curtailment"
Author: portlander

pdt Wrote:
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> Ahhh...the famous "how to lie with statistics"
> graph.
>
> Look at it quickly, and it looks like train
> lengths have doubled.  Looks at it closely, and
> ull see that there is only a 10% increse. 
> AND...its maximum train length, not average train
> length.   So chances are, the average 100 car
> train has increased in length to 103 cars!
>
> What a joke...  Moving the deck chairs in order
> to ask for a higher bonus for top mgmt.   Too
> bad stockholders are lemmings.
>
>  

The graph says 720', approximately 10%, between January and May. Clearly states that they're showing the maximum train length. Lack of focus on the readers part does not necessarily constitute a lie on the writers part.

cctgm Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Glad or maybe not that I,  retired by trip plan
> compliance in the 60% range for very long and you
> would be looking for a new job as a manager. Every
> terminal I worked in was in the high 90% we always
> looked to make 100% and at times did , this is a
> reflection on the plan not working as intended ,
> they state PSR takes handling moves out and helps
> better velocity, from that one statistic it looks
> like lost opportunities  of course serving the
> customers is now not a priority and cutting
> resources and people to make shareholder profits
> it where it is at.  I watched an old movie on TMC
> just the other day Called Executive tower. This
> would be good viewing for todays hedge funds and
> upper management of many railroads and other
> companies.       

One part of PSR is finding alternate rides for traffic. Putting cars on the next available train headed to the correct destination. This means that a car (for example) that is scheduled to run from Roseville to North Platte on the MRVNP, may run ahead of schedule on an empty grain train also headed to North Platte. So it didn't meet the trip plan, but arrived at the destination regardless. Now, there is a tool to approve an alternate ride, but I don't know how often it's used or if once used, it changes the T-Plan.

In short, that could be one reason for poor compliance. . .

 



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