Western Railroad Discussion > Hundreds of Stored UP Units in KCMO

What used to be the hump yard at Union Pacific's now-shuttered Neff Yard in Kansas City, MO is now packed to the gills with units that are now considered to be surplus.  Shutting down humps and storing locomotives are two of the key tenets of Precision Scheduled Railroading, which has swept the industry.  It's a wild sight, to be sure.

- Jeff Carlson

 



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bnsfsd70 Wrote:
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> What used to be the hump yard at Union Pacific's
> now-shuttered Neff Yard in Kansas City, MO is now
> packed to the gills with units that are now
> considered to be surplus.  Shutting down humps
> and storing locomotives are two of the key tenets
> of Positive Scheduled Railroading, which has swept
> the industry.  It's a wild sight, to be sure.
>
> - Jeff Carlson

Technically, it’s PSR, Precision Scheduled Railroading, but it’s all really a bunch of lies and BS.

Right! Duh.  Thanks for the correction.  :::facepalm:::

- Jeff

spwolfmtn Wrote:
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> Technically, it’s PSR, Precision Scheduled
> Railroading, but it’s all really a bunch of lies
> and BS.

It's not just PSR railroading, it's trade policy that has  UP's inter modal business down , that and their Coal traffic down

Coal being replaced by natural gas.....i can see a lot of power being laid up from that....But otherwise, I cant see that this paints a good picture of the economy....

Looks like a bunch of older DC and AC power that are less fuel efficient than the newer stuff.  Anyone need a GE Dash 9 or a EMD SD70M?

SooGuy64 Wrote:
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> Looks like a bunch of older DC and AC power that
> are less fuel efficient than the newer stuff. 
> Anyone need a GE Dash 9 or a EMD SD70M?


Actually the new Tier 4s consume more fuel.

This pic is a great example of the narrow vision of RR management (not getting beyond the next easy dollar to be made) rather than trade policies. They are setting themselves up for failure and somebody else will have to clean the MESS up.....

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What an awesome photo of where the railroad industry is going under the current conditions.

Bob Krieger
Cheyenne, WY

So, is BNSF, CSX, or NS doing the same thing?

So many comments on here about how railroad are run, why are they not in charge of any? Wow experts 

CM1 Wrote:
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> So, is BNSF, CSX, or NS doing the same thing?

BNSF’s LUGO (Laid Up Good Order) count has risen dramatically of late with more locomotives to go.



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CM1 Wrote:
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> So, is BNSF, CSX, or NS doing the same thing?


CSX..a lot of stored locos at Waycross, Huntington, and Cumberland.

NS..Altoona, Roanoke, and Chattanooga.

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BAB Wrote:
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> So many comments on here about how railroad are
> run, why are they not in charge of any? Wow
> experts 

All you have to do is read about (or work for one of them) what is REALLY going on in the RRs...??!!

All right there...not rocket science.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/07/20 08:56 by ns1000.

 Thanks for sharing this mind-boggling photo!

the hostlers forgot to line them up in number order 

The downturn in coal traffic should be obvious in this photo with the numbers of six and seven thousand numbered units shown.  

I was also surprised to see a C40-8W, the 9500 unit, in the mix as I had thought the UP and gotten rid of all of them. 

Thanks for posting.  

Nick Tharalson,
Marion, IA

starsandbars Wrote:
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> the hostlers forgot to line them up in number
> order 


You sound like my wife...:<)

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Brings back memories of SP's Bull Ring Yard near downtown LA back in the 80's!

The 6456 is a former SP in the 300 series I think.  This would make it about 25 years old, and I don't see any of the units in the picture less than about age twenty?

The amount of business decline to idle this many locomotives is staggering.
G

PHall Wrote:
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> Brings back memories of SP's Bull Ring Yard near
> downtown LA back in the 80's!

It started in the late '70's when SP's older GE fleet was dropping like flies.  GE parts shortage and questionable locomotive maintainence, during high traffic levels, didn't help.  


Allen



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