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Date: 01/25/20 11:35
The Middle Men
Author: spsniper

Middle Man UP 2587 and crew, grind uphill as mid-train helpers on a heavy West Colton to Roseville manifest.
Shot at the big curve Warren, CA!




Date: 01/25/20 12:04
Re: The Middle Men
Author: ble692

There are no more West Colton to Roseville manifests. Apparently those are bad in Unified Plan 2020 (UP's PSR term). So they run MWCST and MWCSTX trains that are huge and can have cut in power, plus more power on the rear. That is most likely what the train pictured is. Funny thing is half the cars on the trains are Roseville bound traffic and that still gets there eventually, just after making a stay in Fresno or Stockton. Unless they extend the destination of the train to Roseville, but still call it a Stockton or Fresno. Games I say...



Date: 01/25/20 12:54
Re: The Middle Men
Author: mapboy

In the other direction, Mo-Sa it's the MSTWC, on Sundays it's the MRVWC.  No doubt some MSTWCXs, too.

mapboy



Date: 01/25/20 17:59
Re: The Middle Men
Author: Bob3985

I got a text frommy old boss indicating that the last car rolled over the Davis yard in Roseville at 10:40am a few days ago.
I remember when we took 844 and 3985 there to dedicate the hump May 26/27 1999.

Bob Krieger
Cheyenne, WY



Date: 01/26/20 09:22
Re: The Middle Men
Author: bluesman

Are those DP units or are they manned?



Date: 01/26/20 09:59
Re: The Middle Men
Author: PHall

bluesman Wrote:
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> Are those DP units or are they manned?

DPU.



Date: 01/26/20 22:17
Re: The Middle Men
Author: WP805A

Bob3985 Wrote:
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> I got a text frommy old boss indicating that the
> last car rolled over the Davis yard in Roseville
> at 10:40am a few days ago.
> I remember when we took 844 and 3985 there to
> dedicate the hump May 26/27 1999.


Oh you mean that big party they had and you guys brought the engines all the way from Cheyenne to Roseville and UP never invited You all to the party . :(

Dave Dodds
San Dimas, CA



Date: 01/27/20 06:54
Re: The Middle Men
Author: portlander

Bob3985 Wrote:
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> I got a text frommy old boss indicating that the
> last car rolled over the Davis yard in Roseville
> at 10:40am a few days ago.
> I remember when we took 844 and 3985 there to
> dedicate the hump May 26/27 1999.

He gave you bad info, the hump is still going.



Date: 01/28/20 13:01
Re: The Middle Men
Author: johnsweetser

Is this really a westbound (Colton to Roseville) train?  I don't think I have ever seen a westbound train on Tehachapi carrying lumber and lumber products like shown.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/28/20 13:14 by johnsweetser.



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