Western Railroad Discussion > BNSF Clovis - Alliance, Texas Routing

Is there a rhyme or reason on how BNSF routes traffic between Clovis, NM and Alliance, Texas?  Appears they have four options:
1.  Via Amarillo and the Bowie Sub
2.  Via Sweetwater and trackage rights on UP into Ft. Worth
3.  Via Temple
4.  Via Brownwood and then Ft. Worth & Western
 

All CLOALT traffic runs via Amarillo and Wichita Falls.

BNSFDS

Never heard of the Bowie Sub.  Where is that?

sums007 Wrote:
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> Never heard of the Bowie Sub.  Where is that?


I'm sure this person ment the Boise City Sub.

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May have my BNSF subs confused.  I was thinking the Bowie sub is between Ft. Worth and Wichita Falls.

millerdc Wrote:
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> May have my BNSF subs confused.  I was thinking
> the Bowie sub is between Ft. Worth and Wichita
> Falls.

Since the line goes through Bowie Texas ...

Boise City (OK) Sub is north of Amarillo, so it definitely would not be part of the route.

millerdc Wrote:
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> May have my BNSF subs confused.  I was thinking
> the Bowie sub is between Ft. Worth and Wichita
> Falls.

That would be the Wichita Falls Sub...

Red River Division
     Wichita Falls Sub -- Fort Worth to Wichita Falls
     Red Rvier Valley Sub -- Wichita Falls to Amarillo
 

n5dhg Wrote:
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> Red River Division
>      Wichita Falls Sub -- Fort Worth to Wichita
> Falls
>      Red Rvier Valley Sub -- Wichita Falls to
> Amarillo
>  
Thanks

It is NOT true that ALL CLOALT traffic operates via Amarillo on Red River Valley and Wichita Falls sub. But it’s safe to say 99% do these days.

However this past Friday night BNSF operated an H ALTBAR4 via the UP Baird sub. Reason? I don’t know what it was, but you can bet there was a good reason. That train even met an H SWRNYF1 17A on the Baird sub.

There is a “rhyme” for BNSF utilizing the UP Baird sub. They plan to operate an H SWRNYF1 every Friday night over the Baird sub. The Reason? I honestly don’t know. And it often gets annulled.

Why did ALTBAR4 go that way this past weekend? I don’t know.

In the past, major MW windows on Red River Valley and/or Wichita Falls suns have driven trains to utilize UP or FWWR trackage rights. But l think the FWWR is subject to temporary trackage rights negotiated on an as needed basis.

BNSF got running rights on UP Baird  Sub many years ago , back in the  1900's.  Reason, it save lots of miles and takes pressure off the Wichita Falls line.  UP (MP) was glad to get the revenue on a very lightly used T&P line prior to the UP-SP merger.  The MP_ UP merger essentially made the old T&P west of Monahans a 2 trains a day line.because SP would not co operate with through traffic .

tomstp Wrote:
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> BNSF got running rights on UP Baird  Sub many
> years ago , back in the  1900's.  Reason, it
> save lots of miles and takes pressure off the
> Wichita Falls line.  UP (MP) was glad to get the
> revenue on a very lightly used T&P line prior to
> the UP-SP merger.  The MP_ UP merger essentially
> made the old T&P west of Monahans a 2 trains a day
> line.because SP would not co operate with through
> traffic .

Actually, I think the trackage rights date back to ATSF before BNSF. I can't recall what Santa Fe gave up in the bargain.