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Date: 05/03/21 14:58
Is this what it was like at the end on the MILW?
Author: Texican65

That question is what my fellow train crew members and I have been asking ourselves over the last several months. With as dysfunctional as it has become on the operations side now, we can't help but wonder if this is how the Milwaukee guys felt towards the end. The current state of PSR here on this class 1 has almost shut the place down, and it seems that they've finally cut too deep...it can't go anywhere else but up. The level of extreme chaos, disorder, waste, and neglect is at an all time high.

So....with all the chaos, dysfunction, shortage of power with trains sitting around for days waiting on a consist, lack of personnel to fill train crew positions, lack of personnel to maintain equipment, lack of personal to coordinate train planning and movements, lack of personnel to render assistance when in dire need...broken and ragged equipment failing left and right...slow orders everywhere...on time deliveries a thing of the past. We are asking....."Is this what it was like at the end for the guys on the Milwaukee"?



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/21 16:34 by Texican65.



Date: 05/03/21 15:17
Re: Is this what it was like at the end?
Author: MojaveBill

What RR is this?

Bill Deaver
Tehachapi, CA



Date: 05/03/21 15:25
Re: Is this what it was like at the end?
Author: Super_C

MojaveBill Wrote:
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> What RR is this?

BNSF



Date: 05/03/21 15:26
Re: Is this what it was like at the end?
Author: trkinsptr

I didn’t know things were this bad on the BNSF!



Date: 05/03/21 15:44
Re: Is this what it was like at the end?
Author: callum_out

BNSF runs perfectly, exactly as it should with the current level of employment. You dismiss all the "lates" and the rollng
house of cards that is the main at current traffic levels and of course your OR gets better. 

Out 



Date: 05/03/21 15:47
Re: Is this what it was like at the end?
Author: TEEKAY

Yikes.

I would assume that this is probably how the other railroads are operating now as well...just imagine if/when investors begin to get wind of this stuff with the publicly traded roads.

Maybe then they'll start to listen, but I won't hold out hope.



Date: 05/03/21 16:00
Re: Is this what it was like at the end?
Author: koloradokid

trkinsptr Wrote:
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> I didn’t know things were this bad on the BNSF!

And the Bean Counters go home on time and sleep like a baby!  I can't believe Warren Buffet puts up with this kind of mismanagment.

Robert



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/21 16:08 by koloradokid.



Date: 05/03/21 16:09
Re: Is this what it was like at the end?
Author: Txtrainman60

If it's THAT bad on BNSF, can you even imagine U.P?? They screwed things up BEFORE PSR!!!



Date: 05/03/21 18:35
Re: Is this what it was like at the end?
Author: brc600

Txtrainman60 Wrote:
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> If it's THAT bad on BNSF, can you even imagine
> U.P?? They screwed things up BEFORE PSR!!!

Hey, Buffett purchased BNSF over hometown yoUPee. That should convey something. People have tried to alert him.

The RI and MILW were killed the same way. The "disease" just moved to new players.



Date: 05/03/21 20:25
Re: Is this what it was like at the end on the MILW?
Author: TAW

Texican65 Wrote:
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> We are asking....."Is this what it was
> like at the end for the guys on the Milwaukee"?

Here are some eyw witness reports

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?18,3460529,3460529#msg-3460529

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?18,3460082,3460082#msg-3460082

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?18,3461040,3461040#msg-3461040

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?18,3461489,3461489#msg-3461489

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,4528580,4528713#msg-4528713 Date: 04/10/18 20:08 Re: MILW 5506 at Bellingham, Washington, 09/75 Author: TAW

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,1885110,1885260#msg-1885260 Date: 03/01/09 11:14 Re: Brush Covered BN Branch Northeast From Bellingham, Author: TAW

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,3697887,3699471#msg-3699471 Date: 03/25/15 09:03 Re: Maroon Monday - Death by slow order Author: TAW

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,4340189,4340243#msg-4340243 Date: 07/17/17 15:20 Re: Dump Truck takes out PNWR Trestle on Cornelius Pass Line Author: TAW

However, I have written way more than this about BN in the 80s...almost as bad as my MILW experience, but in a different way.

TAW
 



Date: 05/03/21 21:07
Re: Is this what it was like at the end on the MILW?
Author: TAW

Texican65 Wrote:
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>....."Is this what it was
> like at the end for the guys on the Milwaukee"?

Here's two more

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?18,3459005,3459005#msg-3459005

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?18,3453411,3453411#msg-3453411

TAW



Date: 05/04/21 16:50
Re: Is this what it was like at the end on the MILW?
Author: Drknow

The Rock Island boys I worked with back in the day could give you a earful for 12 & tow too. Much bitterness, most of it justified. And while Staggers did SOME things right, it was not thought out well enough for the long view. In typical Govt. fashion it was knee jerk in regards to the PC/Conrail, Milwaukee and RI shitshow’s.

Posted from iPhone



Date: 05/04/21 20:07
Re: Is this what it was like at the end on the MILW?
Author: HomerBedloe

Yeah, pretty sure Milw wasn't spending $3 BILLION  on capital maintenance and improvements at the end.  I don't think y'all have to worry about BNSF just yet.

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/bnsf-outlines-3-billion-capital-investment-budget-for-2021

Hey, here's a fun fact:  BNSF has now been around longer than BN was a stand alone railroad.  Anybody else feeling old these days?



Date: 05/05/21 03:14
Re: Is this what it was like at the end on the MILW?
Author: Texican65

TAW Wrote:
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> Texican65 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >....."Is this what it was
> > like at the end for the guys on the Milwaukee"?
>
> Here's two more
>
> https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?18
> ,3459005,3459005#msg-3459005
>
> https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?18
> ,3453411,3453411#msg-3453411
>
> TAW

Tom, thank you for taking the time to remember and type all of those memories down for us, and to share them here. Sounds like this business now with current class 1’s is nothing new, just a little different with the technological advances of today.

Posted from iPhone



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