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Western Railroad Discussion > Union Pacific's ZG4CI, IG4SI, and IG4SIB at St. LouisDate: 08/01/21 09:50 Union Pacific's ZG4CI, IG4SI, and IG4SIB at St. Louis Author: Gerrypaul I think I know part of the drill on these, but I haven't been in St. Louis in a while and looking for updates:
Used to be a IG4LB that did its change of crews in St. Louis over just east of Grand Avenue, at that signal arm off Edwin St. That was in a 10pm-11pm time and I think 6 days/week (no Monday night, right?). I think that there is now a "ZG4SI" and "ZG4SIB" to Santa Teresa, NM...with lots on international containers (e.g., K-Line, Triton, Hyundai, NYK Logistics, etc.). These arrive at Edwin St. signal sort of mid-day? These two trains operate 7 days a week from G4 in Joliet? Also, a "ZG4CI" arrives at that Edwin St. signal location to switch crews, right? It's daily ( right?) to City of Industry (LA), has a very "domestic" look to it (UMAX, EMP, XPOLogistics, Tiger, C.R. England, etc.), and arrives at Edwin St. in the basic time slot of 10pm-11pm of previous IG4LB. This correct? I'm grateful to anyone who can fill this out a bit. I figure there are currently at least 3 UP westbound intermodal trains doing a crew-change at the Edwin Signal Arm location most or all 7 days of the week. Thank You! - Gerrypaul ---Gerrypaul Date: 08/01/21 09:55 Re: Union Pacific's ZG4CI, IG4SI, and IG4SIB at St. Louis Author: memphisfreight As far as I know the ZG4CI still operates via the BNSF transcon. You can see it daily in the afternoons on the Fort Madison cam.
Date: 08/01/21 10:46 Re: Union Pacific's ZG4CI, IG4SI, and IG4SIB at St. Louis Author: dcfbalcoS1 The ZG4CI runs on the UP, Right? RIght! right. Just saw it go past our house outhere, right?
Date: 08/01/21 13:05 Re: Union Pacific's ZG4CI, IG4SI, and IG4SIB at St. Louis Author: bradleymckay ZCIG4 is only several times a week now. The other days it's a ICIG4.
ZG4CI still running every day. Allen Posted from Android Date: 08/01/21 13:09 Re: Union Pacific's ZG4CI, IG4SI, and IG4SIB at St. Louis Author: Gerrypaul You know what? I think you are partly correct. I think Z-G4CI operates on the BNSF as far as Armourdale in KCK. I think that a UP crew picks it up at Armourdale and takes it on its way: Herington--Pratt---Dalhart---Vaughn--Santa Teresa....etc.
Date: 08/01/21 15:15 Re: Union Pacific's ZG4CI, IG4SI, and IG4SIB at St. Louis Author: memphisfreight Gerrypaul Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > You know what? I think you are partly correct. I > think Z-G4CI operates on the BNSF as far as > Armourdale in KCK. I think that a UP crew picks it > up at Armourdale and takes it on its way: > Herington--Pratt---Dalhart---Vaughn--Santa > Teresa....etc. > Well, a train that looks like ZG4CI came past the Ft Mad cam at 3:40pm today. According to the last UP train list I saw around July 4th they were running an IG4SI and an IG4SIB through St. Louis, sorta as you say but not calling them Z trains. But with UP, 25 days is an eternity as to train symbols. Date: 08/01/21 20:02 Re: Union Pacific's ZG4CI, IG4SI, and IG4SIB at St. Louis Author: Gerrypaul Any clues on when IG4SI and/or IG4SIB typically arrive at St. Louis for the change of crews?
If it is similar to the pattern for the IG4LB from a few years ago, it would arrive in a basic 9pm-1am time. I. think it was daily, x not on Mondays in St. Louis. Now, whenever the time, I guess it's 7days/week. Date: 08/02/21 05:58 Re: Union Pacific's ZG4CI, IG4SI, and IG4SIB at St. Louis Author: AaronJ As of a whopping 3 months ago (likely already changed) UP was moving the following intermodal through St. Louis that was running between Chicago and LA/ El Paso...
IG4SI (daily) - via ex-GM&O through St. Louis then ex-MoPac across MO IG4SIB (daily) - via ex-GM&O through St. Louis then ex-MoPac across MO ILBG4 (daily) - via ex-MoPac across MO/through St. Louis then ex-GM&O to G4 In contrast the two Z trains between these same points ran via BNSF transcon between G4 and Kansas City... ZCIG4 (????) - via BNSF trackage rights through Ft. Madison to G4 ZG4CI (daily) - via BNSF trackage rights through Ft. Madison to Kansas city Now if the ZCIG4 is no longer a daily train with a portion of the week it demoted to the ICIG4, then the ICIG4 is likely running via St. Louis as well. Gerrypaul Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think I know part of the drill on these, but I > haven't been in St. Louis in a while and looking > for updates: > > Used to be a IG4LB that did its change of crews in > St. Louis over just east of Grand Avenue, at that > signal arm off Edwin St. That was in a 10pm-11pm > time and I think 6 days/week (no Monday night, > right?). > > I think that there is now a "ZG4SI" and "ZG4SIB" > to Santa Teresa, NM...with lots on international > containers (e.g., K-Line, Triton, Hyundai, NYK > Logistics, etc.). These arrive at Edwin St. signal > sort of mid-day? These two trains operate 7 days > a week from G4 in Joliet? > > Also, a "ZG4CI" arrives at that Edwin St. signal > location to switch crews, right? It's daily ( > right?) to City of Industry (LA), has a very > "domestic" look to it (UMAX, EMP, XPOLogistics, > Tiger, C.R. England, etc.), and arrives at Edwin > St. in the basic time slot of 10pm-11pm of > previous IG4LB. This correct? > > I'm grateful to anyone who can fill this out a > bit. I figure there are currently at least 3 UP > westbound intermodal trains doing a crew-change at > the Edwin Signal Arm location most or all 7 days > of the week. > > Thank You! > > - Gerrypaul > > ---Gerrypaul Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 08/02/21 17:12 by AaronJ. |