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Date: 10/03/21 13:07
New Housing Development above UP Tunnel One Area
Author: cozephyr

Westbound BNSF 7136, ES44C4, led the Denver, CO, to Provo, Utah, train through Coal Creek Canyon west of Arvada, CO, on Sundays, 3 October 2021.  Note construction equipment and new dirt road above the train.  New housing development construction has begun-!  Coal Creek Canyon is where UP's Moffat Tunnel Subd has a horseshoe curve before entering tunnel #1.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/03/21 16:57 by cozephyr.




Date: 10/03/21 14:20
Re: New Housing Development above UP Tunnel One Area
Author: coach

What about the downslope winds????!!  If they can knock over trains, how will a flimsy house survive?????  We have to put limits--can't we have open spaces instead of letting developers touch everything????



Date: 10/03/21 14:29
Re: New Housing Development above UP Tunnel One Area
Author: NYC_L4a

Nimby type complaints about trains from homeowners in that development beginning in 3....2....1



Date: 10/03/21 14:48
Re: New Housing Development above UP Tunnel One Area
Author: WAF

Too late, its approved



Date: 10/03/21 16:52
Re: New Housing Development above UP Tunnel One Area
Author: MacBeau

There goes the neighborhood.
—Mac



Date: 10/03/21 17:28
Re: New Housing Development above UP Tunnel One Area
Author: ParkSouth

I wonder what the domestic water story will be for these homes.  There is a real problem with water from wells in that area and across in Blue Mt. Estates.   Now is the time to sell lots with rail traffic way down.  If things boom again for that line with 24 trains a day again it will be more then coyotes making sounds!
Tom Klinger



Date: 10/03/21 17:37
Re: New Housing Development above UP Tunnel One Area
Author: tiltone

coach Wrote:
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> What about the downslope winds????!!  If they can
> knock over trains, how will a flimsy house
> survive?????  We have to put limits--can't we
> have open spaces instead of letting developers
> touch everything????
Maybe a wind farm as well for power LOL cheers D.



Date: 10/03/21 18:33
Re: New Housing Development above UP Tunnel One Area
Author: SantaFeRuss

ParkSouth Wrote:
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> I wonder what the domestic water story will be for
> these homes.  There is a real problem with water
> from wells in that area and across in Blue Mt.
> Estates.   Now is the time to sell lots with
> rail traffic way down.  If things boom again for
> that line with 24 trains a day again it will be
> more then coyotes making sounds!
> Tom Klinger

How many trains daily (24 hours ) now a days?

SantaFeRuss












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Date: 10/03/21 20:21
Re: New Housing Development above UP Tunnel One Area
Author: MojaveBill

We have some pretty strong winds here and I've never heard of a house blowing over nor people complaining of train whistles...
Sonic booms, yes, in fact Edwards AFB has someone assgned to take those calls.
Is there a grade crossing on those rails?

Bill Deaver
Tehachapi, CA



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Date: 10/04/21 03:37
Re: New Housing Development above UP Tunnel One Area
Author: cozephyr

Blue Mountain Drive grade crossing in Coal Creek Canyon requires all trains to use their horns.  

Train traffic;

Two Amtrak trains a day, maybe a coal train or two (traffic down), one or two BNSF trackage rights trains per day, and four manifest UP trains a week.




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/04/21 03:38 by cozephyr.




Date: 10/04/21 05:57
Re: New Housing Development above UP Tunnel One Area
Author: Lackawanna484

rgzfan Wrote:
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> When I looked into this in 2019, the city was
> going to charge a ~$21k hookup fee for sewer and
> water per lot.The

Yikes!

That's a real impact fee. FL developers limited the total impact fees to half that.

Posted from Android



Date: 10/04/21 08:27
Re: New Housing Development above UP Tunnel One Area
Author: PHall

Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> rgzfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > When I looked into this in 2019, the city was
> > going to charge a ~$21k hookup fee for sewer
> and
> > water per lot.The
>
> Yikes!
>
> That's a real impact fee. FL developers limited
> the total impact fees to half that.
>
> Posted from Android

Just a bit easier to work in nice flat Florida then in the mountains of Colorado.



Date: 10/04/21 12:25
Uranium
Author: Lightning_Slinger

Wait until they find out there are abandoned *uranium* mines in the hills just to the west of this mess....

cozephyr Wrote:
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> Westbound BNSF 7136, ES44C4, led the Denver, CO,
> to Provo, Utah, train through Coal Creek Canyon
> west of Arvada, CO, on Sundays, 3 October 2021.
>  Note construction equipment and new dirt road
> above the train.  New housing development
> construction has begun-!  Coal Creek Canyon is
> where UP's Moffat Tunnel Subd has a horseshoe
> curve before entering tunnel #1.



Date: 10/07/21 15:13
Re: Uranium
Author: koloradokid

Lightning_Slinger Wrote:
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> Wait until they find out there are abandoned
> *uranium* mines in the hills just to the west of
> this mess....
>

I have never heard of uranium mines in that part of Colorado.  Far SW there were, here?  Much possible contamination from Rocky Flats though!

Robert



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