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Date: 01/14/22 21:38
Questions about Redondo Junction
Author: Sp1110

1. Why did BNSF remove the track that ran across the SP and UP tracks on the diamonds and connected the Harbor Division to the Union Station Line?

2. Did PE have trackage rights on the SP track?

3. Did the BNSF investigator ever determine the cause of the fire?

4. Why did Amtrak demolish the roundhouse?

5. How many roundhouses in California are still standing?

6. Is Redondo Junction owned by BNSF or UP?

7. Does BNSF have trackage rights on the Amoco Line?



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/15/22 22:42 by Sp1110.



Date: 01/14/22 23:42
Re: Questions about Redondo Junction
Author: MrMRL

Sp1110 Wrote:
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> 1. Why did BNSF remove the track that ran across
> the SP and UP tracks on the diamonds and connected
> the Harbor Division to the Union Station Line?


Because 20+ years ago, what is now BNSF's (very disconnected) former ATSF Harbor Sub was superseded by the jointly operated 3 Main track UP/BNSF Alameda Corridor "trench". And a double-track "fly-over" bridge was installed over the Union Pacific tracks to allow Amtrak Surfliner and Metrolink passenger operations to continue seamlessly to and from Los Angeles Union Station......


~ Mr. MRL



Date: 01/14/22 23:55
Re: Questions about Redondo Junction
Author: MyfordBrowning

The SP used trackage rights on the UP at Reddondo Junction. If I remember correctly, the SP handled cars for the PE btween the Northern and Southern Districts.

Cliff



Date: 01/15/22 04:59
Re: Questions about Redondo Junction
Author: masterphots

Roundhouses in CA:   CSRM Sacramento;  Sierra Ry  Jamestown.   Can't think of any others.  



Date: 01/15/22 07:46
Re: Questions about Redondo Junction
Author: BCHellman

masterphots Wrote:
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> Roundhouses in CA:   CSRM Sacramento;  Sierra
> Ry  Jamestown.   Can't think of any others.  

Bayshore?



Date: 01/15/22 08:25
Re: Questions about Redondo Junction
Author: Evan_Werkema

masterphots Wrote:

> Roundhouses in CA:   CSRM Sacramento;  Sierra Ry  Jamestown.   Can't think of any others.  

The ruins of SP's Bayshore roundhouse in Brisbane, CA: https://goo.gl/maps/dsH4omN7JvNhoLpb6

The repurposed State Belt roundhouse along the Embarcadero in San Francisco: https://goo.gl/maps/tx5txPzBXt11zCpV9

The Timber Heritage Association roundhouse in Samoa: https://goo.gl/maps/5SHExouRxPeT75br9 , https://timberheritage.org/history-of-the-samoa-shops/

See also: https://www.steamlocomotive.com/roundhouse/?state=CA



Date: 01/15/22 10:40
Re: Questions about Redondo Junction
Author: cewherry

MyfordBrowning Wrote:
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> The SP used trackage rights on the UP at Reddondo
> Junction. If I remember correctly, the SP handled
> cars for the PE btween the Northern and Southern
> Districts.

You are correct, on both statements, Cliff.

Charlie



Date: 01/15/22 14:51
Re: Questions about Redondo Junction
Author: MojaveBill

What I believe are the shadows of the tracks of Mojave's rectangular engine house are visible on Google Earth.

Bill Deaver
Mojave, CA



Date: 01/15/22 16:30
Re: Questions about Redondo Junction
Author: PHall

MojaveBill Wrote:
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> What I believe are the shadows of the tracks of
> Mojave's rectangular engine house are visible on
> Google Earth.

Well if nothing has disturbed the land they were on they sould be visible. The earth under the tracks had been compressed by the weight of the locomotives and had been contaminated by the drippings from the locomotives.



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