Western Railroad Discussion > Derailment near Los Angeles intermodal facility

Approximately 17 cars of a Union Pacific train derailed today in Los Angeles, near the site of the recent cargo thefts in the news.

KTLA has the story:

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/train-derails-near-site-of-recent-thefts-in-lincoln-heights/

Here is live video as it happened.  https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1482527695967821825  

UP is making it easier for the the thieves it seems. How far back was the picked switch?

MSE Wrote:
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> Here is live video as it happened.
>  https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1482527695
> 967821825  

They stopped their cargo search long enough to take the video!

mapboy

I’ve done that on my model train layout, crazy to see that you can do it with the full size trains too.

Nathan

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mapboy Wrote:
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> MSE Wrote:
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> > Here is live video as it happened.
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>  https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1482527695
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> > 967821825  
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> They stopped their cargo search long enough to
> take the video!
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> mapboy
Just what I was thinking.
Regards,DK

Looks like a turnout may have thrown under the train. I wonder with so much crap on the rail, the CTC system could not sense the train in the plant and reacted to a stack command to line the plant for the another move and lined the switch under the train?

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR

All switches in this area on main 2 and the lead are hand throw.  Main 2 is restricted speed needing permission fron the Shops Yardmaster to enter the limits.  There aren't any  switches connecting to main 1 between Yuma Jct MP 482.8 and Valley blvd MP485.6. 

This "smash-n-grab" style theft is exponentially climbing on the BNSF Railway out of Los Angeles, CA. Primarily spurred on (in my opinion) by the unresolved (and now increasingly public) U.P. problem, and increased Social Media spread... Inbound (and now outbound) trains are (again) increasingly being targeted by opportunistic thieves due to the longstanding lack of reliable "rent-a-cop"  security, along with accountability from local rail management over who is realistically responsible for the theft problem.

It only takes an $8.99 'Harbor Freight' bolt cutter, and a 5-20 min stopped container train, to crack open 6-12 containers to see if someone hits the jackpot. US RRs typically run through the "rougher" parts of the US's major metropolitan regions. A quick and semi-educated internet search across available online social media services (including Trainorders.com) can near readily provide the basic information needed to track down the next lucratively potential target freight train.

Better container locks or better overall security service are desperately required.

Mr. MRL

 

MrMRL Wrote:
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> Better container locks or better overall security
> service are desperately required.

What would help would be something akin to those old "bulkhead" stack cars that had a superstructure to hold to top container in place, but nothing quite so substantial. Just a framework that prevents opening the doors of the containers. Granted it won't help a 40' container loaded in a 53' well, but it would at least keep the 53' containers safe.
 

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR

sidewinder Wrote:
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> All switches in this area on main 2 and the lead
> are hand throw.  Main 2 is restricted speed
> needing permission fron the Shops Yardmaster to
> enter the limits.  There aren't any  switches
> connecting to main 1 between Yuma Jct MP 482.8 and
> Valley blvd MP485.6. 

Its been a while since I have run a train in that direction. What about the crossoveR switches at Sichel Street? Have they been eliminated?

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/16/22 03:07 by SanJoaquinEngr.

I only see three or four trucks on this train actually derailed, remarkable.
JB

The problem with those is that they blow over in high winds worse than the more frequently used cars. 

> What would help would be something akin to those
> old "bulkhead" stack cars that had a
> superstructure to hold to top container in place,
> but nothing quite so substantial. Just a framework
> that prevents opening the doors of the containers.
> Granted it won't help a 40' container loaded in a
> 53' well, but it would at least keep the 53'
> containers safe.
>  

The video shows a young man watching the derailing cars grinning ear to ear for a moment until he sudenly jerks back out of camera view.  If he is in the system they might be able to ID him with facial recognition.

JB - Omaha



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/16/22 12:06 by Copy19.

They need to bring back the cabooses from the museums and put armed agents inside them and put them in the middle or rear of every container train.

With an emphasis on "Armed" agents... (like with RPG's, flamethrowers, gattling guns and whatever else...)
(ah oh.... heeeer we go...!)

Sp1110 Wrote:
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> They need to bring back the cabooses from the
> museums and put armed agents inside them and put
> them in the middle or rear of every container
> train.

Open season just like deer hunting back home. Buy a tag and can bag 1 a day. Problem solved

walstib Wrote:
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> Approximately 17 cars of a Union Pacific train
> derailed today in Los Angeles, near the site of
> the recent cargo thefts in the news.
>
> KTLA has the story:
>
> https://ktla.com/news/local-news/train-derails-nea
> r-site-of-recent-thefts-in-lincoln-heights/

I heard today the rumor was it was sabatoogie (3 stooges) vandals lined the switch under the train.

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