Western Railroad Discussion > PEB 250’s rail labor recommendation is out, all 119 pages of it

Use the shorthand link directly to the PDF file posted below. The actual PEB recommendations begin around page 34. Condensed summary of recommendations on pages 116-117.

I'd imagine both parties to this discussion are feverishly convening conference calls and meetings at the moment drafting their responses to the document.


Mr. MRL ~ <727 hours...



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 08/16/22 13:52 by MrMRL.

That's a link to a Facebook group and all the comments are looking for a link to the recommendations.

Perhaps someone will provide us with real information.

DevalDragon Wrote:
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> That's a link to a Facebook group and all the
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> recommendations.
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> Perhaps someone will provide us with real
> information.

https://docdro.id/t9jodav

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Thank you.

Looks like we need to get our picket signs ready!

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> Looks like we need to get our picket signs ready!

and comfortable shoes.

Judging from the response of labor on a few FB group this is gonna be a no vote.

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> Judging from the response of labor on a few FB
> group this is gonna be a no vote.

could you please sum it up as to why it may be a "no" vote?

i can't access it.

thanks for any info..............

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> "no" vote?
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> i can't access it.
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> thanks for any info..............
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> 66

its a crap deal. Vote no and strike. That about sums it up.

copy that...........

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Summary of recommendations.

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I've read both the summary and the bits and pieces and have found NOTHING that addresses the potential job action. The wage increases
total about 2% behind inflation, look at the employee increased medical costs thrown in and ONE additional paid personal leave per year!?!
I'm sure the vote on this will be a surprise to no one but in other matters the Canadians settled for less.

Out

Nope.

What a joke.

It's just as I've been saying, the rails either lock out or let walk and Congress comes in and pushes
this as a settlement and bingo, the rails come out farther ahead than if they'd negotiated and settled.

Out 

Here's what the carrriers think about our contribution to their success.

 

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Looks to me like they refused to address absentism policy and crew consist issues.
Picket signs, comfortable shoes and better update the resume. 

sphogger

Exactly, there is nothing that addresses the real problem. If this were a 5 X 8 or 5 X 10 regular job the money wouldn't
be an issue. 

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> Looks to me like they refused to address absentism
> policy and crew consist issues.

That's because they were not part of the initial petition.

Yes that's true BUT this is a docuiment that was prepared for the purpose of avoiding a strike, I see little evidence
that point was addressed. The STB hearings were way biased toward issues other than money, was the PEB not
aware of that, original petition or not. Like I said, square toed oxfords and boot that can! Hello Congress!

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> > Looks like we need to get our picket signs
> ready!
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> and comfortable shoes.

Not really. The Government will step in and threaten the union leaders with jail time and fines. Needless to say, it will be short. 

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> > > > > Perhaps someone will provide us with real
> > > > > information.
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> > > > https://docdro.id/t9jodav
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> > > Thank you.
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> > > Looks like we need to get our picket signs
> > ready!
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> > and comfortable shoes.
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> Not really. The Government will step in and
> threaten the union leaders with jail time and
> fines. Needless to say, it will be short. 

No, we have oppurtunities at appropriate times for self help...if that time comes it SHALL BE HAD