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Date: 05/25/23 09:52
BNSF Z-WSPSBD/SBDWSP Question!
Author: CSXQ090FAN

Hi Folks.  I was  wondering what the santa fe processors was  to todays modern   Z-SBDWSP / Z-WSPSBD pairs?  Thanks  in  advance.



Date: 05/25/23 11:34
Re: BNSF Z-WSPSBD/SBDWSP Question!
Author: callum_out

Since the predecessor codes were less succient, WB would have been a 198 or 188 and EB a 891/881. 

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Date: 05/25/23 13:07
Re: BNSF Z-WSPSBD/SBDWSP Question!
Author: longliveSP

callum_out Wrote:
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> WB would have been a 198 or 188 and EB a 891/881. 

Didn't those originate/terminate at Hobart, not SB?

When did the intermodal ramp at SB open? And didn't it start as purely JBHunt?



Date: 05/25/23 13:15
Re: BNSF Z-WSPSBD/SBDWSP Question!
Author: PHall

longliveSP Wrote:
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> callum_out Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > WB would have been a 198 or 188 and EB a
> 891/881. 
>
> Didn't those originate/terminate at Hobart, not
> SB?
>
> When did the intermodal ramp at SB open? And
> didn't it start as purely JBHunt?

The 8 origin/destination code was for Southern California. So it could be LA, San Diego or San Bernardino.
The current codes are much more specific.



Date: 05/25/23 15:47
Re: BNSF Z-WSPSBD/SBDWSP Question!
Author: callum_out

Exactly, there never was a true IM ramp at Berdoo until around 2000?

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Date: 05/25/23 19:27
Re: BNSF Z-WSPSBD/SBDWSP Question!
Author: NYC303

The bigger intermodal ramp taking the place of the A yard and shops was completed in 1995, but there was a smaller intermodal ramp at SB A yard west of Mt. Vernon Ave. prior to that. At that time, LA trains picked up and set out the SB trailers, a practice which continued for a while after the bigger ramp was opened until SB began running its own full trains. 
I don't know that the 198/891 regularly worked SB, they were the hottest UPS trains. 893 did sometimes work at SB as did other intermodals like 168, 861, SLACH, SCHLA, QLANY, and QNYLA.



Date: 05/25/23 22:39
Re: BNSF Z-WSPSBD/SBDWSP Question!
Author: callum_out

Thanks for the info on the ramp dates, couldn't quite make a conection as to when that was.

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Date: 05/26/23 17:58
Re: BNSF Z-WSPSBD/SBDWSP Question!
Author: sfbrkmn

Backing the clock up to this time in 1983, the 883 & 178 (before changing to 893 & 198) were routed on the northern corridor through Raton, La Junta & Newton. At Newton, both were evening trains. La Junta crews said on many nights, provided no other crews were rested @ Dodge City, 883 would arrive w/178 already arrived & waiting for the inbound crew to board and take bk to Lajunt making a round trip flip. Now retired engr Bruce Corey told me that when working w/him @ Garden City many yrs ago. Sam

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Date: 05/29/23 22:04
Re: BNSF Z-WSPSBD/SBDWSP Question!
Author: willieb007

They were the Q-LAWS and Q-WSLA. Those trains were established as hot LTL trains just before the merger.

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