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Western Railroad Discussion > BNSF high wind derailment. Fairmont, OKDate: 07/21/23 09:37 BNSF high wind derailment. Fairmont, OK Author: okcrr From the news wires in Enid. 84 mph winds on a double stacker. Can't tell for sure but it looks like it may have been stopped when it tipped over. Some good pics in the article.
interesting they call it Burlington northern Santa Fe instead of just BNSF Railway. https://www.enidnews.com/news/local_news/high-winds-derail-train-in-fairmont-cause-damage-in-enid-area/article_85b121d8-27d5-11ee-9829-13a06cb431a9.html Date: 07/21/23 11:22 Re: BNSF high wind derailment. Fairmont, OK Author: Milw_E70 They were stopped for a tornado warning in the area
Date: 07/21/23 11:59 Re: BNSF high wind derailment. Fairmont, OK Author: RailDawg Do trains do better against high winds stopped?
Or is momentum a friend? Chuck Date: 07/21/23 12:53 Re: BNSF high wind derailment. Fairmont, OK Author: LocoPilot750 Weather service alerts DS, he puts out the warning to trains that might be affected, certain trains must stop, some like loaded coal or grain can keeping moving. Might have been tweaked a little since I retired.
Posted from Android Date: 07/21/23 14:44 Re: BNSF high wind derailment. Fairmont, OK Author: railstiesballast If the wind blows over a standing car or cars, it is damaged, but the track is not.
But if it is derailed while moving it is likely to take a bunch of other cars with it and damage them plus the track. A moving train has dynamic forces that could make it easier, or harder to tip a car over. Possibly a lot of tension in the drawbars, as with "stretch" braking, could give some resistance to tipping over a light car if it is coupled to a heavy one. Date: 07/21/23 19:35 Re: BNSF high wind derailment. Fairmont, OK Author: Valleyman In the picture at the road crossing. Wonder why the gates were still up and not broken by the double stack that fell over? The gates should've been down.
Valleyman Date: 07/21/23 19:43 Re: BNSF high wind derailment. Fairmont, OK Author: okcrr Maybe enough cars left the tracks that the detector thought the train had cleared the crossing. No contact. No movement. No train. So the gates went back up.
Valleyman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In the picture at the road crossing. Wonder why > the gates were still up and not broken by the > double stack that fell over? The gates should've > been down. > > Valleyman Date: 07/22/23 05:59 Re: BNSF high wind derailment. Fairmont, OK Author: howeld RailDawg Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Do trains do better against high winds stopped? > > Or is momentum a friend? > > Chuck Momentum is not a friend if it goes off the rail. When stopped there may not be any or minimal track and equipment damage. Posted from iPhone Date: 07/22/23 13:31 Re: BNSF high wind derailment. Fairmont, OK Author: funnelfan About the only way a moving train would be better is if the train is moving with the wind. Otherwise your just compounding forces, a wind from the forward motion and the swaying of the cars would make them more prone to tipping.
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