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Steam & Excursion > UP steam fixersDate: 01/12/17 11:55 UP steam fixers Author: dcfbalcoS1 Anybody like to guess how many years in the future it will be before we know what company or group of individuals were paid by the U.P. to go in and repair the 844 and I assume are doing the same for the 4014 in order to get it out and running ?? Not asking who, just how many years.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/12/17 11:55 by dcfbalcoS1. Date: 01/12/17 20:00 Re: UP steam fixers Author: BAB Look back to see your answers as UP is doing the job and did the job on 844. Its been posted all during the rebuild and ongoing rebuild of 4014.
Date: 01/12/17 20:29 Re: UP steam fixers Author: Spoony81 BAB Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Look back to see your answers as UP is doing the > job and did the job on 844. Its been posted all > during the rebuild and ongoing rebuild of 4014. No they didn't, outside help came in and finished the job Posted from iPhone Date: 01/12/17 21:36 Re: UP steam fixers Author: Realist BAB Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Look back to see your answers as UP is doing the > job and did the job on 844. Its been posted all > during the rebuild and ongoing rebuild of 4014. Not hardly. Not a single person on that crew had any experience whatsoever in locomotive boiler work. Which explains how the boiler got into the shape it was in. They used contractors for virtually all of the boiler and firebox work, installation of lagging, and all the wiring and electrical work. Date: 01/13/17 06:48 Re: UP steam fixers Author: dan they have got a welder who probably works all the time
Date: 01/13/17 08:36 Re: UP steam fixers Author: howeld The same week in May 2014 both 4014 arrived in Cheyenne (5/8/14) and WMSR announced (5/6/14) they would be restoring 1309.
1309 to be ready late spring with official debut of July 1st. Posted from iPhone Date: 01/13/17 23:21 Re: UP steam fixers Author: cchan006 BAB Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Look back to see your answers as UP is doing the > job and did the job on 844. Its been posted all > during the rebuild and ongoing rebuild of 4014. That's what we are supposed to believe, anyway. I think the OP was hoping for some Wikileaks type event, hoping to take credit for starting a truth-finding scandal. UP Steam isn't that important anymore in overall scheme of things, so no one's going to "leak" any meaningful information, anyway. Hope people are making plans to see some real mainline steam actions this year, including the 611 and the 4449. Date: 01/14/17 04:53 Re: UP steam fixers Author: dcfbalcoS1 No 'wikileaks' type scenario here. I asked a straight up question of 'how many years it will be be'. That is asking for an opinion from whoever, nothing more.
Date: 01/14/17 17:31 Re: UP steam fixers Author: Realist That will never be revealed. In fact, they might deny any "outside" workers were involved at all.
Date: 01/14/17 19:13 Re: UP steam fixers Author: cchan006 dcfbalcoS1 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > No 'wikileaks' type scenario here. I asked a > straight up question of 'how many years it will be > be'. That is asking for an opinion from whoever, > nothing more. A HotWater-ish Q&A would have been good enough for me: Q: "Does anyone know if UP Steam used outside contractor to repair the UP 844 in time to meet the Cheyenne Frontier Days deadline?" HotWater: "Yes." Date: 01/15/17 13:26 Re: UP steam fixers Author: dcfbalcoS1 Some outside 'people' did the work and eventually someone will tell someone else. Americans can't keep a secret to save their lives even with corporate axe men threatening them. The French Resistance had a pretty good method of keeping things quiet but not here. I give it no more than 5 years and at the most 10.
We will all meet back here when things have fallen apart and someone blabbed. Date: 01/16/17 21:11 Re: UP steam fixers Author: filmteknik Is it that big of a secret? How many people are out there who are qualified in that field that the knowledgeable people here would not know them? I'm sure there are plenty of people who can do general boiler work but how transferrable are those skills to locomotive work?
Date: 01/17/17 15:31 Re: UP steam fixers Author: Realist filmteknik Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Is it that big of a secret? How many people are > out there who are qualified in that field that the > knowledgeable people here would not know them? > I'm sure there are plenty of people who can do > general boiler work but how transferrable are > those skills to locomotive work? They got a regular general boiler shop from Colorado to do the boiler work. It should have been (and probably was) an ASME/NBIC code shop with the proper stamps and credentials and access to both of those codes and to FRA Part 230. They were also told to keep quiet about it. General boiler shops often deal with boilers and other appliances in power plants, refineries and chemical plants; sometimes up to 1,800 psi or more. A 300 psi locomotive boiler is child's play to them AS LONG AS they follow the proper codes. There was some fool on here a few years ago braying about the crew having ship boiler experience and how much better that would be that plain old locomotive folk. This was ridiculous on it's face, as ship boilers are entirely different from locomotive boilers in design, constuction, maintenance and operation. Plus none of these guys had ever been on a marine boiler crew. Probably only one of them had ever even been in a ship's fire room. Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/17/17 20:43 by Realist. Date: 01/18/17 13:52 Re: UP steam fixers Author: ProAmtrak cchan006 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > BAB Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Look back to see your answers as UP is doing > the > > job and did the job on 844. Its been posted all > > during the rebuild and ongoing rebuild of 4014. > > That's what we are supposed to believe, anyway. > > I think the OP was hoping for some Wikileaks type > event, hoping to take credit for starting a > truth-finding scandal. UP Steam isn't that > important anymore in overall scheme of things, so > no one's going to "leak" any meaningful > information, anyway. > > Hope people are making plans to see some real > mainline steam actions this year, including the > 611 and the 4449. I'm hoping for 611 over Memroial Day weekend, just gotta book the hotel and the Amtrak ticket and I will be excited getting on No. 4 heading to Roanoake! |