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Date: 02/22/17 13:24
SP's 4500 series 0-8-0's
Author: Barstool

Here are two shots of SP's 0-8-0's, the first shot is in roseville on 8-12-1955 working the departure yard, the 4505 packed aTE of 52,990 and the 0-8-0's along with 2-8-0's brought trains from the trim yard after they were humped to the departure yard and further switched for bad orders. As SP brought in the six axle baldwins, the 4500's were fazed out and 4505 stayed in service in august 1956.  The second shot is 4512, working at Aldeline in West Oakland, moved from roseville, this was 4512's last stop and stayed in operation right up to the end and was the last 0-8-0 to operate....






Date: 02/22/17 14:56
Re: SP's 4500 series 0-8-0's
Author: wingomann

The sand domes on the loco in the second picture are different than the ones in the top view.  It's insteresting that SP didn't keep them the same (standarized).



Date: 02/22/17 17:05
Re: SP's 4500 series 0-8-0's
Author: up833

Different stack and the bell is located differently also...
Roger B



Date: 02/22/17 17:19
Re: SP's 4500 series 0-8-0's
Author: CPRR

Any left?

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Date: 02/22/17 18:26
Re: SP's 4500 series 0-8-0's
Author: Barstool

CPRR....,.They are all gone by early 1959...



Date: 02/22/17 18:57
Re: SP's 4500 series 0-8-0's
Author: UPTRAIN

For a lowly switch engine they not only looked good, but still carried a brutish persona to them.  I'd love to kick cars with one.

Pump



Date: 02/23/17 09:22
Re: SP's 4500 series 0-8-0's
Author: Earlk

We're these goats home built in Sacramento from the boilers of something else totally different  - like Atlantics? 



Date: 02/23/17 11:06
Re: SP's 4500 series 0-8-0's
Author: cewherry

Earlk Wrote:
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> We're these goats home built in Sacramento from
> the boilers of something else totally different 
> - like Atlantics?

​According to Guy Dunscomb in his ​A Century Of Southern Pacific Steam Locomotives ​the boilers on
​eight of the Sacramento built 0-8-0's did indeed come from dismantled 4-4-2's, seven in 1930 and one in 1937.
Barstool's photo of 4505 was a Sacramento product.

The 4512 was built at Houston in 1930 utilizing a boiler from one of "SP's smallest, and T&NO's only articulateds", the
​MM-1 (Mallet Mogul) class 2-6-6-2's. In 1952 four of these Atlantic Lines 0-8-0's were were transferred to the Pacific Lines,
​received new numbers 4509-4512 and finished out their careers. Barstool's 4512 was among one of these Houston products.
All of 27 of SP's 0-8-0's, Pacific, Atlantic and Mexican lines varieties, were scrapped by 1958.

It's hard to believe that a boiler from an articulated locomotive, even one of "SP smallest", could be made to fit on an 0-8-0.
Those master mechanics sure could do wonders.

Charlie

 



Date: 02/24/17 14:35
Re: SP's 4500 series 0-8-0's
Author: TrackGuy

Just when you thought you had heard every wild story about RR shop forces joining components from totally unrelated classes of engine into something new and very different. Never even knew the SP had any 0-8-0s.

What is more surprising is the centered headlight on a switch engine.

Track Guy

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