Steam & Excursion > Brits like to cut engines open

The Pender is cut away on one side, in Manchester.
This does a nice job of explaining basic steam locomotive operation.

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This one cut-away at the Nat'l Rwy Museum in York

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That has to be a great tool to educate people about how a steam locomotive works. Hope some still care to learn.

What a GREAT IDEA!!!! That bunch in Altoona should do the same thing with 1361.

If my 84 year old memory serves me well, there use to be a cutaway steam locomotive in the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia many, many years ago.

Jim
Hatboro, PA.

HotWater Wrote:
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> What a GREAT IDEA!!!! That bunch in Altoona
> should do the same thing with 1361.

Ouch!!!

Steamtown has one, too: http://i.imgur.com/pEXauff.jpg

HotWater Wrote:
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> What a GREAT IDEA!!!! That bunch in Altoona
> should do the same thing with 1361.


Family Guy also uses cutaway jokes.....

Mary McPherson
Dongola, IL
Diverging Clear Productions

Steamtown has one. But are there any big mainline engines cut away in the USA?

HotWater Wrote:
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> What a GREAT IDEA!!!! That bunch in Altoona
> should do the same thing with 1361.


That bunch? You mean the volunteers who picked up a project no one else would touch? Yeah, let's mock the motivated among us who choose to buck the odds and try to find a way to do what needs to be done.

Robertjohndavis Wrote:
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> HotWater Wrote:
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> > What a GREAT IDEA!!!! That bunch in Altoona
> > should do the same thing with 1361.
>
>
> That bunch? You mean the volunteers who picked up
> a project no one else would touch? Yeah, let's
> mock the motivated among us who choose to buck the
> odds and try to find a way to do what needs to be
> done.

Well said.

Here's one at the Swiss Transport Museum in Lucerne.

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Robertjohndavis Wrote:
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> HotWater Wrote:
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> > What a GREAT IDEA!!!! That bunch in Altoona
> > should do the same thing with 1361.
>
>
> That bunch? You mean the volunteers who picked up
> a project no one else would touch? Yeah, let's
> mock the motivated among us who choose to buck the
> odds and try to find a way to do what needs to be
> done.

So,,,,,why waste any more money on the existing boiler? Why not use THAT as a full size cut-away for educational purposes? In order to EVER make 1361 fully FRA compliant and eventually available for excursion service, she SHOULD have a complete new boiler/firebox assembly.

HotWater Wrote:
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> So,,,,,why waste any more money on the existing
> boiler? Why not use THAT as a full size cut-away
> for educational purposes? In order to EVER make
> 1361 fully FRA compliant and eventually available
> for excursion service, she SHOULD have a complete
> new boiler/firebox assembly.

I have seen this from a couple of professionals in the field, but they have never explained why it was necessary to replace perfectly good barrel courses when the boiler needs firebox work. Nobody has ever presented actual real reasons, which would include the calculations they performed to arrive at that recommendation.

Rick Rowlands
Hubbard, OH
Youngstown Steel Heritage



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/18/17 06:59 by RickRowlands.

RickRowlands Wrote:
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> HotWater Wrote:
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>
> > So,,,,,why waste any more money on the existing
> > boiler? Why not use THAT as a full size
> cut-away
> > for educational purposes? In order to EVER make
> > 1361 fully FRA compliant and eventually
> available
> > for excursion service, she SHOULD have a
> complete
> > new boiler/firebox assembly.
>
> I have seen this from a couple of professionals in
> the field, but they have never explained why it
> was necessary to replace perfectly good barrel
> courses when the boiler needs firebox work.
> Nobody has ever presented actual real reasons,
> which would include the calculations they
> performed to arrive at that recommendation.

You might have to ask those companies/folks that have done such work/calculations on 1361, such as Bob Yuil (no retired), or the folks at Strasburg, or maybe Wasatch Railroad Contractors.

So do the Germans. I took this at the DARMSTADT-KRANICHSTEIN MUSEUM on 13-10-1980.

Brian Ehni

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