Steam & Excursion > All The Basics For Steam Locomotives Servicing Found Here!

While steam locomotives were certainly labor intensive when it came to keeping them running, once they were in good repair, the daily servicing needs were relatively simple. If you kept them supplied with fuel, water and sand they could be at the ready for many miles of dependable running.

At this Southern Pacific facility we see consecutively numbered 4-8-4's stopped for their fill of fuel oil, water and sand. The layouit of these supplies make it easy to top off each of the needs of one of these engines in short order.

While just the basics, many times that's all these iron horses needed to keep this running strong.


Martin



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/18 06:45 by LoggerHogger.

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Martin - look at those numbers again, those are GS-4 4-8-4's. TomE

Can anyone use information in the background to locate this?

spladiv Wrote:
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> Can anyone use information in the background to
> locate this?

I was wondering that also. I think the tobacco company is Arizona, but maybe up in Bayshore?

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Bob Church's book Daylight Locomotives has this picture on page 255. It is credited
to Bob Knoll, taken in Tucson in 1952.

LoggerHogger wrote:

> At this Southern Pacific facility we see consecutively numbered 4-8-4's stopped for their fill of fuel oil, water and sand.

Sand? What in the photo is used to replenish sand?

It's interesting to note that the two water columns and the oil supply gear are different. I guess it shows that one set was installed at a later date. Maybe during a facility expansion?

wingomann Wrote:
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> It's interesting to note that the two water
> columns and the oil supply gear are different. I
> guess it shows that one set was installed at a
> later date. Maybe during a facility expansion?


The requirements of loading oil and water are quite different. e.g. there are scads of pictures of firemen overfilling the water cistern. I've done it uncounted times myself. No big deal.

But, overfill the oil tank on a tender and you have a real mess.

-Larry Doyle

Really great photo!

sp3204 Wrote:
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> Bob Church's book Daylight Locomotives has this
> picture on page 255. It is credited
> to Bob Knoll, taken in Tucson in 1952.

So does this mean that LoggerHogger owns the print, or a copy?

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CPRR Wrote:
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> sp3204 Wrote:
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> > Bob Church's book Daylight Locomotives has this
> > picture on page 255. It is credited
> > to Bob Knoll, taken in Tucson in 1952.
>
> So does this mean that LoggerHogger owns the
> print, or a copy?

Wouldn't you think that LoggerHogger owns the NEGATIVE???????

From this photo the nearest set, left to right, appears as lights, sand, oil, water, sand, lights, and sand.
The farther set appears as lights, lights, oil, and water.

My question is, were these sets based on one direction only, being the oil and water are positioned as they are? Oil to front of tender, water to the rear, or could the oil reach over and above the water as it was filling?

HotWater Wrote:
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> CPRR Wrote:
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> > sp3204 Wrote:
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> > > Bob Church's book Daylight Locomotives has
> this
> > > picture on page 255. It is credited
> > > to Bob Knoll, taken in Tucson in 1952.
> >
> > So does this mean that LoggerHogger owns the
> > print, or a copy?
>
> Wouldn't you think that LoggerHogger owns the
> NEGATIVE???????

Calm down Jack.....I did not know that Martin had the negs.

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Given his advanced age, I wonder if that is the Conductor protecting the rear of what must be either the Argonaut or the Imperial. I'd think protection would the the rear Brrakeman's job.

AA

Stanford White
Carmel Valley, CA

LarryDoyle Wrote:
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> wingomann Wrote:
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> > It's interesting to note that the two water
> > columns and the oil supply gear are different.
> I
> > guess it shows that one set was installed at a
> > later date. Maybe during a facility expansion?
>
>
> The requirements of loading oil and water are
> quite different. e.g. there are scads of pictures
> of firemen overfilling the water cistern. I've
> done it uncounted times myself. No big deal.
>
> But, overfill the oil tank on a tender and you
> have a real mess.
>
> -Larry Doyle

No, I mean if you compare the two water columns they are different makes or models. One has the wheel control the other a lever. The same with the oil columns. If you look close they are different. If they were put in at the same time they should have been identical. It makes me think they were put in at different times. Maybe it's only interesting from a modeler standpoint.

rrman6 Wrote:
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> From this photo the nearest set, left to right,
> appears as lights, sand, oil, water, sand, lights,
> and sand.
> The farther set appears as lights, lights, oil,
> and water.

I see NO SAND delivery system/systems in that photo. The tall, small vertical pipe with long hose hanging down appears to be a water filling device (note the fixture on the end of the hose.



> My question is, were these sets based on one
> direction only, being the oil and water are
> positioned as they are?

No, the locomotive tend would simply have to be properly positioned.

Oil to front of tender,
> water to the rear, or could the oil reach over and
> above the water as it was filling?


Don't think it's long enough to do THAT.