Steam & Excursion > The Dream

Now that the 4014 is up and running, something many people thought was a dream until a few years ago, let's dream about the "ultimate"(?) rail fan dream. How about 844, 3985 and 4014 triple heading over a re-opened Tennessee Pass? I know there isn't a snowball's chance in h--l that this will ever happen, but if you're going to dream, dream big!

Sounds good to me. I would actually drive out to Colorado to see that!

Rmosele Wrote:
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> Sounds good to me. I would actually drive out to
> Colorado to see that!

When I get my time machine working, I'll be there yesterday!

Mary McPherson
Dongola, IL
Diverging Clear Productions

How about restoring a Turbine!

Phantom_of_Cajon Wrote:
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> How about restoring a Turbine!

That blows!

Mary McPherson
Dongola, IL
Diverging Clear Productions

KY_Railfan Wrote:
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> Now that the 4014 is up and running, something
> many people thought was a dream until a few years
> ago, let's dream about the "ultimate"(?) rail fan
> dream. How about 844, 3985 and 4014 triple heading
> over a re-opened Tennessee Pass? I know there
> isn't a snowball's chance in h--l that this will
> ever happen, but if you're going to dream, dream
> big!

We used to say that about seeing a 4000 under steam.  Dream big,
anything is possible at this point!

CZ10 Wrote:
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> We used to say that about seeing a 4000 under
> steam.  Dream big,
> anything is possible at this point!

Okay....

Get C&O 1601 out of the Henry Ford, get it restored, and reshoot the tug-of-war scene in "Danger Lights" featuring it and 4014!

Somehow, I doubt the couplers survive the encounter.

Mary McPherson
Dongola, IL
Diverging Clear Productions

MaryMcPherson Wrote:
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> Phantom_of_Cajon Wrote:
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> > How about restoring a Turbine!
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> That blows!

Thanks Mary....I had a great chuckle from that one!!
Am off to the gym....lord knows I need, even though my knee doesn't like it.
Greg Scholl

Phantom_of_Cajon Wrote:
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> How about restoring a Turbine!

Step right up guy and pay for it, cost would be outragious way beyond 4014 and running it would be the same. Its also old rehashing of old news.

If you really want to dream, how about a triple header with 4449 (the most photographed steam locomotive), 844 and 4014.  They could meet in LA and TH up Cajun Pass.  There would be a lot of freight on CP but just the thought is exciting. I suspect most have seen the 23 minute video of 4449 and 844 racing up that pass in 1989.  If you haven’t, find it on you tube, you’ll enjoy it.


I’m 80 years old and still dreaming.  

For me, it would be a Santa Fe 5011-class 2-10-4, to pair up with either 2926 or 3751.

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bioyans Wrote:
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> For me, it would be a Santa Fe 5011-class 2-10-4,
> to pair up with either 2926 or 3751.
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> Posted from Android

Add UP 9000 to that list....
 

MaryMcPherson Wrote:
> Get C&O 1601 out of the Henry Ford, get it
> restored, and reshoot the tug-of-war scene in
> "Danger Lights" featuring it and 4014!

I'll place the first bet on 1601 if put back into her prime condition... 
The tested/confirmed 7,498 dbhp of the C&O H-8s (C&O #1608 specifically) topped the previous results of about 6,300 by the UP Big Boys and N&W "A"s by a surprising margin, and there are several stories indicating the actual tractive effort numbers on the H-8 were well above the published ones.

Remember, T.E. estimates are calculated on steel wheels on dry rails....

Haven’t seen any numbers based on sanded rails...

My empirical experience is that tractive effort increases (in the vicinity) of 17% to 22%... with sanders at every driver, and rail washers, to blow the rails clean.

My guess would be that 16 drivers on sand, & 4-safeties blowing, beats 12 drivers on sand, with four safeties blowing ..

IMHO..

W.

(NOW, UP 3985 vs. C&O 1600s,
You’ve got a real toss-up... I guess it depends on who’s knuckle breaks, first...).

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To be honest with everyone, I'll be real happy to see scrappy lil' PRR 1361 out and about someday!

My Dream is actually somewhat obtainable. I would love to see 4449, 611, 844, and 2926 come together at one location. Once there, put them through different trials, under objective measure, to see once and for all which 4-8-4 is really the greatest.

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611, 1218 & 2156 running 

Dream only?  4449, 610 and 2101 all operational (again) and restored to the colors they wore on the American Freedom Train .... 

Regards,
Burlington John
 

wcamp1472 Wrote:
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> My guess would be that 16 drivers on sand, &
> 4-safeties blowing, beats 12 drivers on sand, with
> four safeties blowing ...

Perhaps, until there is a slip...   One of the few reported problems of the Alleghenys was increased rail wear because they were so well balanced they didn't slip.
There are stories of H-8s leaving Huntington WB (loaded coal trains for Toledo) having doubled with the wrong cuts of cars and actually pulling a double length train, and still making it up to and over Limeville bridge before the issue was noted and they were told to continue...  The TE ratings were to reduce issues from too much drawbar strain.

Reopen Pipestone Pass (just a few miles..) and bring back the remaining little Joes...