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Date: 07/20/19 22:05
whats the latest on 1309
Author: steamboat

will it be ready for this fall runs? 



Date: 07/21/19 04:52
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: co614

It will be done....when it's done and not 6 minutes sooner. Gratefully John Garner has finally learned to STOP issuing completion/return to service dates. My WAG is if they get real lucky they might ( operative word...MIGHT) make the Santa 2019 season ?????

   Time will tell.  Ross Rowland



Date: 07/21/19 06:16
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: warren1977

steamboat Wrote:
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> will it be ready for this fall runs? 

Fall runs? There is but 6 weeks to labor day, 9 weeks to the fall season.
Time is ticking...



Date: 07/21/19 07:31
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: Check_A1E_Perf

warren1977 Wrote:
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> steamboat Wrote:
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> > will it be ready for this fall runs? 
>
> Fall runs? There is but 6 weeks to labor day, 9
> weeks to the fall season.
> Time is ticking...

Why? What happens when the clock is all ticked out? Does anyone turn into a pumpkin?



Date: 07/21/19 07:35
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: joeygooganelli

Last I've heard is that ALL WORK has stopped for the time being. 

Joe



Date: 07/21/19 07:57
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: HotWater

steamboat Wrote:
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> will it be ready for this fall runs? 

Fall of what year?



Date: 07/21/19 08:04
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: CPRR

joeygooganelli Wrote:
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> Last I've heard is that ALL WORK has stopped for
> the time being. 
>
> Joe

That is unfortunate.......



Date: 07/21/19 08:36
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: Keystone1

Why?



Date: 07/21/19 08:39
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: HotWater

Keystone1 Wrote:
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> Why?

One VERY important guess,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,No more funds coming in to pay the contractor, i.e. Diversified Rail Services.



Date: 07/21/19 08:52
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: Keystone1

But...didn’t they just paint a diesel red, and buy some new Budd cars?     Money???



Date: 07/21/19 08:58
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: HotWater

Keystone1 Wrote:
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> But...didn’t they just paint a diesel red, and
> buy some new Budd cars?     Money???

Obviously those funds were NOT "allocated" to the 1309 project. Also, don't forget all the track work that needs to be accomplished.



Date: 07/21/19 14:20
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: warren1977

Keystone1 Wrote:
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> But...didn’t they just paint a diesel red, and
> buy some new Budd cars?     Money???
Didn't you use to be the guy who was "In search of steam"? If so, you are sadly misinformed.
The FP40PH is a lease-purchase, it is a stopgap measure since both GP30s are shot. It has not been repainted.
The 3 BUDD RDCs were taken in trade from TVRM for the Man O' War combine and a couple other cars. Only one RDC is operable, the other two are unpowered  coaches.

Recently $90,000 was shaken down from the 3 local gov'ts having jurisdiction, Allegany County, Cumberland City, Frostburg City; this is for trackwork and bridge inspections.
To date, over $2.5 million dollars of state money has been applied to the project 1309.
According to a WMSR source, $75,000 has been raised from donations for 1309 specifically.
AFAIK, WMSR also gets a $250,000 yearly allotment that comes from the state for ordinary maintenance and capital equipment.
Still awaiting release of an audit conducted by county commishs.

Attached are 3 photos released 6/28/19 by WMSR of the train at Frostburg. You may draw your own conclusions.








Date: 07/21/19 14:51
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: MiketheMikado

Here's a mystery. If one of you are the subscribers on Trains Magazines type what the artical says about #1309. http://173.226.48.109/railroads/ask-trains/2019/07/ask-trains-when-will-co-2-6-6-2-no-1309-steam-again



Date: 07/21/19 15:09
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: HotWater

warren1977 Wrote:
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> Keystone1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > But...didn’t they just paint a diesel red,
> and
> > buy some new Budd cars?     Money???
> Didn't you use to be the guy who was "In search of
> steam"? If so, you are sadly misinformed.
> The FP40PH is a lease-purchase, it is a stopgap
> measure since both GP30s are shot. It has not been
> repainted.
> The 3 BUDD RDCs were taken in trade from TVRM for
> the Man O' War combine and a couple other cars.
> Only one RDC is operable, the other two are
> unpowered  coaches.
>
> Recently $90,000 was shaken down from the 3 local
> gov'ts having jurisdiction, Allegany County,
> Cumberland City, Frostburg City; this is for
> trackwork and bridge inspections.
> To date, over $2.5 million dollars of state money
> has been applied to the project 1309.
> According to a WMSR source, $75,000 has been
> raised from donations for 1309 specifically.
> AFAIK, WMSR also gets a $250,000 yearly allotment
> that comes from the state for ordinary maintenance
> and capital equipment.
> Still awaiting release of an audit conducted by
> county commishs.

What about the results of the theft of all that brass, the subsequent apprehension of the perp, and pending prosecution of that individual?

> Attached are 3 photos released 6/28/19 by WMSR of
> the train at Frostburg. You may draw your own
> conclusions.

Just my opinion but, there do not appear to be very many customers/passengers/people.



Date: 07/21/19 15:27
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: callum_out

I don't know why not, after all steam doesn't matter, or so it was said.

Out



Date: 07/21/19 16:48
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: kurt765

MiketheMikado Wrote:
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> Here's a mystery. If one of you are the
> subscribers on Trains Magazines type what the
> artical says about
> #1309. http://173.226.48.109/railroads/ask-trains
> /2019/07/ask-trains-when-will-co-2-6-6-2-no-1309-s
> team-again

The article says what Ross Rowland says in the first reply to this thread.



Date: 07/21/19 17:00
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: warren1977

HotWater Wrote:
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> What about the results of the theft of all that
> brass, the subsequent apprehension of the perp,
> and pending prosecution of that individual?
>

The stolen brass is gone and had to be replaced, no charges were pressed in Maryland, AFAIK the case is still inactive in West Virginia, which is where the crime took place.



Date: 07/21/19 17:10
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: NKP779

That is a surprise because one week ago, two of the crew told me that they were ready to rewheel it by the end of July. Is this a new development or is it old info being recycled?

Posted from Android



Date: 07/21/19 17:10
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: HotWater

warren1977 Wrote:
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> HotWater Wrote:
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> -----
>
>
> > What about the results of the theft of all that
> > brass, the subsequent apprehension of the perp,
> > and pending prosecution of that individual?
> >
>
> The stolen brass is gone and had to be replaced,
> no charges were pressed in Maryland, AFAIK the
> case is still inactive in West Virginia, which is
> where the crime took place.

OK, but why is it "still inactive in West Virginia"? The key word in your post being "inactive". 



Date: 07/21/19 17:26
Re: whats the latest on 1309
Author: SSgtC

HotWater Wrote:
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> warren1977 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > HotWater Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> >
> > > What about the results of the theft of all
> that
> > > brass, the subsequent apprehension of the
> perp,
> > > and pending prosecution of that individual?
> > >
> >
> > The stolen brass is gone and had to be
> replaced,
> > no charges were pressed in Maryland, AFAIK the
> > case is still inactive in West Virginia, which
> is
> > where the crime took place.
>
> OK, but why is it "still inactive in West
> Virginia"? The key word in your post being
> "inactive". 
Wild assed guess? Lack of evidence, probably. They may know who stole it, but they may not be able to prove it in court. Or it could simply be the prosecutor elected not to press charges.

Posted from Android



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