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Date: 08/06/19 04:07
This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Friend!
Author: LoggerHogger

We can see that once they hit the diamond in the track, the engine crew of this old #7 in this photo had a wide ride for them that nearly ended in disaster.  Such was one of the inherent dangers of hitting a track diamond at speed.

The photo is labeled as Bellingham, Bay & British Columbia #7 in Northern Washington State.  We see that the railroad crews have already attached a set of ropes and pulleys to #7 to keep her from laying completely over on her side. 

It looks like only her stack, headlight and much of her dignity was lost in this particular mishap.

Martin



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 08/06/19 06:24 by LoggerHogger.




Date: 08/06/19 05:48
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: moonliter

LoggerHogger Wrote:
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>  Such was one of the inherent
> dangers of hitting a track diamond at speed.

Great photo Martin. I always start my day checking out your posts.

If the the engine or train (can't see if anything is behind the tender) hit the diamond at speed wouldn't the momentum carry the engine to the other side of the diamond?  I look forward to more comments on the very interesting photo.

Gerry Gaugl
Ottawa ON



Date: 08/06/19 06:10
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: elueck

Where is the stack?  I see depot where the stack should be.



Date: 08/06/19 06:12
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: elueck

Maybe the crossing was protected by a derail and a gate, and the engine rolled past where she should have stopped for the crew to open the gate and move the derail., thus the apparently slow speed woopsie.



Date: 08/06/19 06:37
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: ts1457

elueck Wrote:
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> Maybe the crossing was protected by a derail and a
> gate, and the engine rolled past where she should
> have stopped for the crew to open the gate and
> move the derail., thus the apparently slow speed
> woopsie.

or engine running in reverse?



Date: 08/06/19 06:40
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: LoggerHogger

The angle of the damage to the headlight seems to indicate forward motion.

Martin



Date: 08/06/19 06:45
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: LarryDoyle

Is that a vacuum brake?

-LD



Date: 08/06/19 06:46
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: ts1457

LoggerHogger Wrote:
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> The angle of the damage to the headlight seems to
> indicate forward motion.
>
> Martin

Thanks, I should have noticed that. Maybe if I had had some coffee before I looked ....
 



Date: 08/06/19 07:15
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: tomstp

B  B & what railroad?  any guesses?



Date: 08/06/19 07:18
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: BAB

It is in his post at the top
 



Date: 08/06/19 09:03
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: lynnpowell

The BB&BC was standard gauge, and later came under Milwaukee Road ownership (their isolated Bellingham to Sumas line, plus a few branch lines).  When the Milwaukee departed the west coast, the line came under BN ownership.  Most of the line's originating freight disappeared and BN abandoned the entire middle of the route.  Small mileage at both ends still exists, around Bellingham under BNSF, and around Sumas under a shortline.



Date: 08/06/19 09:28
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: Illbay

Interesting valve gear on that engine. Is a link missing, or is this a scheme I just don't understand?
...bill



Date: 08/06/19 09:31
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: 5511_

Illbay Wrote:
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> Interesting valve gear on that engine. Is a link
> missing, or is this a scheme I just don't
> understand?
> ...bill

Looks like standard Stephenson to me...



Date: 08/06/19 13:20
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: JimBaker

Curious as to the Block and Tackle set at the right.
I don't see the Bitter-End of the rope in the picture.
Could this be just to stabilize the loco until the big Hook arrives?

James R.(Jim) Baker
Whittier, CA



Date: 08/06/19 14:17
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: LoggerHogger

The block & tackle is tied to the steam dome on one end and the track in the foreground on the other end.

Martin



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/06/19 19:04 by LoggerHogger.



Date: 08/06/19 14:43
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: wingomann

The bitter end is to the right behind the photographer.  The guy to the left looks like he could be giving hand signals.  Maybe they are in the process of righting the locomotive as the picture was taken.



Date: 08/06/19 14:47
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: LarryDoyle

LoggerHogger Wrote:
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> The block & tackle is tied to the steam done on
> one end and the track in the foreground on the
> other end.
>
> Martin

The upper block is tied to the steam dome.  The pull rope goes straight off to the right almost parallel to the clapboard on the building.

Perhaps it's being drawn tight by another engine to "right" the engine that stubbed its' toe..

-LD



Date: 08/06/19 15:46
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: elueck

I like the 5X mechanical advantage given to the pull rope by the turns around the pulleys.  Don't need a lot of applied force, just distance.



Date: 08/06/19 19:43
Re: This Track Apparatus Was Not Always A Steam Locomotive's Frie
Author: ChrisCampi

wingomann Wrote:
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> The bitter end is to the right behind the
> photographer.  The guy to the left looks like he
> could be giving hand signals.  Maybe they are in
> the process of righting the locomotive as the
> picture was taken.

Good call. Took me awhile to see it even after reading your post.



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