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Date: 11/21/19 08:11
BB: CP 4-6-4 #2852
Author: valmont

I'm still looking for date and location of this Bruce Black shot .... hoping at least someone can provide location.




Date: 11/21/19 09:30
Re: BB: CP 4-6-4 #2852
Author: Frisco1522

No sand dome?



Date: 11/21/19 09:42
Re: BB: CP 4-6-4 #2852
Author: hawkinsun

That's what I first noticed too.  No sand dome and no steam dome either.  Is that called a steam turret sticking up ?  I wonder what they did for sand ?

C Hanson
Vay, ID

 



Date: 11/21/19 09:48
Re: BB: CP 4-6-4 #2852
Author: gregscholl

I think its under the shrouding.  You can see where the sand ran over the jacketing from where it was poured.
Love these Royal Hudsons.  My guess would be someplace in the east, maybe around Montreal.  They ran them a lot near
the end on Commuter trains there.  Its in the east cause this is a coal burner, and most of the oil-burners went to the west.
Cool shot..Thanks,
Greg Scholl
http://www.gregschollvideo.com



Date: 11/21/19 10:06
Re: BB: CP 4-6-4 #2852
Author: tomstp

They had" sand pockets" instead of sand domes which limited their amount of sand vs others.



Date: 11/21/19 12:12
Re: BB: CP 4-6-4 #2852
Author: NKP779

Beautiful locomotives.......

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Date: 11/21/19 14:45
Re: BB: CP 4-6-4 #2852
Author: PennsyE6

Some locomotives without a steam dome had a perforated dry pipe. There were a few classes like that on South African Railways.



Date: 11/21/19 20:16
Re: BB: CP 4-6-4 #2852
Author: Elesco

Where do they put the throttle with a perforated dry pipe?  I don't see the linkage typical of a front end throttle.

Edit:  According to the article linked below, the CP Hudsons do have dry pipes (presumably perforated) running along the tops of their boilers in place of steam domes, and also have (2860 at least) conventional cam-actuated multi-valve front end throttles.  They don't show the control linkage.

https://www.exporail.org/can_rail/Canadian%20Rail_no418_1990.pdf
 
 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/21/19 21:14 by Elesco.



Date: 11/21/19 23:01
Re: BB: CP 4-6-4 #2852
Author: moonliter

Elesco Wrote:
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> Where do they put the throttle with a perforated
> dry pipe?  I don't see the linkage typical of a
> front end throttle.

The linkage was through the handrail and connected with the throttle about 18" past where the gray boiler jacketing ends.  Just google "CPR Royal Hudsons" and look at the photos.  I saw about 3 really clear photos showing where the hook-up with the throttle is.

Gerry Gaugl
Ottawa ON



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/21/19 23:03 by moonliter.




Date: 11/22/19 04:33
Re: BB: CP 4-6-4 #2852
Author: PlyWoody

I guess the CROWN placket could be equivalent to the flags on the UP engines, only the UP is a little larger.



Date: 11/22/19 23:51
Re: BB: CP 4-6-4 #2852
Author: Elesco

moonliter Wrote:

> The linkage was through the handrail and connected
> with the throttle about 18" past where the gray
> boiler jacketing ends.  Just google "CPR Royal
> Hudsons" and look at the photos.  I saw about 3
> really clear photos showing where the hook-up with
> the throttle is.
>
> Gerry Gaugl
> Ottawa ON

Wow, very clever!  Thanks.



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