Steam & Excursion > It Was Certainly Amazing What One Could See On A Daily Basis!

The era of steam power offered dramatic scenes like this on a regular basis for anyone who took the time stop and watch the show.

Here, in May 1948 Southern Pacific #2472 puts on quite a show as she powers train #250 at Madison Street in Oakland, California.  That was a wonderful time to have been a railfan with a camera and a few rolls of film.

Martin



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And she is still alive today in Niles...for a bit at least

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I believe the 2472 is no longer part of the Niles Canyon family and is destined for a
new home.  I have read where that is but for the moment can't recall the location.
 

#2472 was supposed to leave with the rest of the Golden Gate Railroad Museum for some former NWP property in the Marin County area.  However, after a few cars departed the PLA Brightside property, UP ordered that all the rest could not go by rail which means they would all have to go by truck.  That has put a major roadblock into the move of #2472 and the rest of the GGRM collection.

Martin

That looks like a member of one of the earlier classes of SP 4-6-2's to me. The domes are the wrong shapes and the boiler isn't wide enough to be 2472:

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Aldo what you dont see anymore, besides the loco, are the transfer crane (left) or the city gas tanks (background).
RB

I agree with Evan. The Pacific appears to be one of the early ones.

GUYS...Take your pick...the 2402,2410,2414 and 2431 were around and worked the local at that tme, there may be a few more as SP mved power arond to meet traffic needs...

up833 Wrote:
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> Aldo what you dont see anymore, besides the loco,
> are the transfer crane (left) or the city gas
> tanks (background).
> RB

And the transfer crane belongs to the Santa Fe!

Agree, that appears to be the little circular shaped yard that Sante Fe had that was served by car barge. There was an article in one of the magazines about it, don't have it with me right now. The area had been rebuilt as the Jack London area in the 60's, one of the local TV stations built their studios on the southern edge of this area and recently moved into a location directly across from the old slipways. So much history in that location and so few people have any idea of what went on around there.



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looks like a P4. Converted in Sacramento in the 1920s from a P1. P4’s updates included new frames, new cylinders, a Delta trailing truck and Walshaert valve motion. Info overload, I know...

Sorry, not a P8, which, if memory serves, is what 2472 is...?

Nonetheless, a great photo. Thanks again, Martin, for keeping SP steam history alive.

Walter

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LoggerHogger Wrote:
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> after a few cars departed the PLA Brightside
> property, UP ordered that all the rest could not
> go by rail which means they would all have to go
> by truck.  
> Martin

Interesting. I wonder what the story is behind that? Also, if 2472 does make it to the North Bay, has any there been any kind of agreement, verbal or written, that will allow any kind of operation there? 

TCnR Wrote:

> Agree, that appears to be the little circular
> shaped yard that Sante Fe had that was served by
> car barge.

The large building directly behind the locomotive is the Santa Fe freight house at the foot of Alice St.  The photo below courtesy the Western Railway Museum Archives gives a good aerial view of the facility looking northeast, with the ferry slip and freight house marked, and the transfer crane also visible just to the right of the freight house.

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