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Steam & Excursion > UP Big Boy FutureDate: 03/29/20 08:19 UP Big Boy Future Author: Topper844 I have heard from three sources, that Union Pacific will "mothball the Big Boy and Northern 8444" after the 2020 season. New COO has deemed the historical collection and the steam program as counter to their reducing their sacred 'operating ratio. I know few details.... but scary.
Due to virus, the BB 2020 program may be cancelled as well. Anyone heard any news. I assume it will run in the fall, and perhaps this whote quarantine issue will be behind us. Hopefully. DB Date: 03/29/20 08:27 Re: UP Big Boy Future Author: Keystone1 Let's hear from other voices that can add to this news. Come on...what have you heard...
Date: 03/29/20 08:41 Re: UP Big Boy Future Author: HotWater Topper844 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > I have heard from three sources, that Union > Pacific will "mothball the Big Boy and Northern > 8444" after the 2020 season. For what it's worth, the Northern hasn't been number "8444" for about 30 years! New COO has deemed > the historical collection and the steam program as > counter to their reducing their sacred 'operating > ratio. I know few details.... but scary. Don't know about "scary", but sure sounds logical. > Due to virus, the BB 2020 program may be cancelled > as well. Also logical, and prudent. Anyone heard any news. Nope. I assume it will > run in the fall, Why would assume THAT? and perhaps this whote quarantine > issue will be behind us. Hopefully. DB A strong maybe? Date: 03/29/20 08:54 Re: UP Big Boy Future Author: SeaboardMan Well I'm not so sure, His rumors on the eastern board have NS just about destroying the business train.
Date: 03/29/20 08:56 Re: UP Big Boy Future Author: HotWater SeaboardMan Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Well I'm not so sure, His rumors on the eastern > board have NS just about destroying the business > train. Yes, he/she sure seems to be full of all sorts of rumors today. Wonder how long ago he/she joined TrainOrders? Date: 03/29/20 09:47 Re: UP Big Boy Future Author: webmaster Until there is a vaccine I don't see any company continuing programs that encourage large crowds to come out. After 2020? I would call it from 2020 into the forseeable future. The virus is like a nuclear bomb, and the nuclear winter will be here for a couple of years. This will be the most challenging financial environment for any railroad to operate and turn a profit.
Todd Clark Canyon Country, CA Trainorders.com Date: 03/29/20 10:02 Re: UP Big Boy Future Author: BKLJ611 Topper844 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > I have heard from three sources, that Union > Pacific will "mothball the Big Boy and Northern > 8444" after the 2020 season. New COO has deemed > the historical collection and the steam program as > counter to their reducing their sacred 'operating > ratio. I know few details.... but scary. > > Due to virus, the BB 2020 program may be cancelled > as well. Anyone heard any news. I assume it will > run in the fall, and perhaps this whote quarantine > issue will be behind us. Hopefully. DB What “sources?” Posted from iPhone Date: 03/29/20 10:20 Re: UP Big Boy Future Author: radar A troll trying to put the match to the puddle of gasoline.
Date: 03/29/20 12:44 Same Old Thing Author: Lightning_Slinger Back in the early 1970s, I don't remember exactly when, 844 (8444 then) was waiting for the green in the pre-dawn hours on the outbound north main on track 4 at Denver Union Station for a high-speed run to Rawlins with an NRHS special. Some guy in a hat came up to the group gathered around the locomotive and said "...A trainmaster just told us this is the last run because a decision has come down from Omaha to retire the engine."
Much panic ensued....with some... Topper844 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have heard from three sources, that Union > Pacific will "mothball the Big Boy and Northern > 8444" after the 2020 season. New COO has deemed > the historical collection and the steam program as > counter to their reducing their sacred 'operating > ratio. I know few details.... but scary. > > Due to virus, the BB 2020 program may be cancelled > as well. Anyone heard any news. I assume it will > run in the fall, and perhaps this whote quarantine > issue will be behind us. Hopefully. DB Date: 03/29/20 12:48 Re: Same Old Thing Author: Bob3985 Ed has been surveying the Northwest for a shoret tour next year.
Bob Krieger Cheyenne, WY Date: 03/29/20 13:16 Re: Same Old Thing Author: Keystone1 If it goes west up Sherman Hill........I'd like to be there...one more time. Maybe for the last time. (I still have some unexposed 16mm Ektachrome daylight movie film, ready to go).
Date: 03/29/20 14:51 Re: Same Old Thing Author: BigSkyBlue Keystone1 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > (I still have some unexposed 16mm > Ektachrome daylight movie film, ready to go). Awesome! BSB Date: 03/29/20 14:54 Re: Same Old Thing Author: HotWater Keystone1 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > If it goes west up Sherman Hill........I'd like to > be there...one more time. Maybe for the last > time. (I still have some unexposed 16mm > Ektachrome daylight movie film, ready to go). I assume that it is silent 16mm film. Date: 03/29/20 15:03 Re: Same Old Thing Author: ALCO630 Who still processes that stuff anymore? Dwaynes?
Posted from iPhone Doug Wetherhold Macungie, PA Date: 03/29/20 16:23 Re: UP Big Boy Future Author: UPChallenger3985 HotWater Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > For what it's worth, the Northern hasn't been > number "8444" for about 30 years! > If I recall, 8444 has belonged to an SD70ACe since 2005. Date: 03/29/20 18:09 Re: UP Big Boy Future Author: ProAmtrak If this is true I will miss pre 2012 UP Steam, other than that it was fun while it lasted!
Posted from Android Date: 03/30/20 01:34 Re: UP Big Boy Future Author: hotrail Most companies are cutting discretionary operating expenses wherever they can right now. Would make sense to cut the budget for teh steam program this year, rather than having to lay off someone in operations or some ohter function that is essential to getting freight over the road.
Date: 03/30/20 02:24 Re: Same Old Thing Author: MaryMcPherson ALCO630 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Who still processes that stuff anymore? Dwaynes? > > Posted from iPhone I believe Ektachrome is an E6 process film. Still pretty common. Mary McPherson Dongola, IL Diverging Clear Productions Date: 03/30/20 05:16 Re: Same Old Thing Author: Keystone1 Yes, Dwaynes.
Date: 03/30/20 08:42 Re: UP Big Boy Future Author: badtanker1987 Yes the steam program is expensive. The 844 received a rebuild that finished in 2016 and the restoration of 4014 was finished last year. The steam shop also received upgrades during that time, including a new overhead crane. The railroad made a cut to the program in another way. The Challenger 3985 will not return to service. This like everything else will pass. The program turns 60 years old this November and hasn't been cancelled yet.
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